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  1. One thing is sure is its better to start supplementing with b12 as a vegan rather than begin to eat "free-range eggs" after experiencing B12 deficiency and needed b12 shots, as I heard from some ex-vegan. I heard B12 lozenges provide that you let melt with your saliva provide b12 that is much better absorbed than any food, including eggs that anyway are much more expensive and quality has been deteriorated by cooking.

  2. @vege


    I took my research down. It led me down the right path of finding out why we are not producing B12 and how we produce it. I'm going to keep it to myself for the time being.




    You mean you found out the truth about b12 and you don't wanna tell us ?


    Some raw foodists say they absorb the b12 produced in their gut. Or with a natural diet they would get b12 also on veggies.

    Some breatharians say there's b12 everywhere, like in the air we breathe.

    Both raw foodists and breatharians say people with b12 deficiency is because the diet m,ade of processed, industrial food prevents from absorbing well b12...


    As for me, I think I may have been b12 deficient during the past few months, I can't be sure though, but I have my nose bleeding slightly for 2-3 days, I was often tired and lacking motivation for a few weeks/months, something inside my head was telling me to get b12 from somewhere, circumstances made that I came accros some b12 energy gums the other day in a new vegan store, each gum has 300% dv dose of B12, once I had one gum, I felt the urge to chew one gum after the other, and to eat b12 fortified food, since 2 days I feel so much more energy that I feel like I can accomplish all the goals I plan to do in my life and I must have had about 10,000% of daily value b12 in the last few days, lol...

  3. Very interesting article by Herbert Shelton.




    Here are some fascinating ideas:

    (what's in red is still from the article and author, I just underlined it)


    Comparative anatomists tell us that "there is an excellent, although not perfect correlation between the food habits of the animal and the length and shape of the intestine." It is my opinion that where this correlation is not perfect, it is due to the fact that the "adaptation" is not completed. I shall refer to this again towards the end of this article.



    It is commonly thought by vegetarians and fruitarians that the diet of an animal is determined by the internal adaptations of the animal — that an animal eats what he does because he is what he is. The lion, for instance, eats flesh because he is constructed and constituted for such a diet, his claws, his teeth, his digestive tract, his instincts fit him for this bill-of-fare.


    That this is true today seems evident enough; but has this always been so? Was the lion always a flesh-eater, a killer, and was he always adapted to the flesh diet?

    We do not think so. We think that internal and external adaptations are largely determined by feeding habits. We think that a change of feeding habits results in a change in adaptations, so that, in the end, feeding habits determine not only the anatomy and physiology of the organism, but even its status and its survival.

    We said that man's digestive tract is twelve times the length of his body. This is not always so for, the same correlation of structure with habit is seen in the human species as is found in the order of bats. The Eskimos have a shorter digestive tract, the difference being found chiefly in a shorter intestine, than the white races.

    Are the Eskimos carnivorous because they possess a shorter digestive tract, or do they possess a shorter digestive tract because they practice carnivorism? Which comes first, habit or adaptation?

    Were the primitive ancestors of the Eskimos carnivorous, or were they frugivorous or omnivorous? Have the Eskimos acquired a shorter digestive tract since they were driven into the far North and forced to live largely on flesh food, or did their ancestors from the South bequeath to them their shorter digestive tracts?

    It is my view that the shortening of the digestive tract resulted from the adoption of a flesh diet: that it is a negative compensation for violation of the fundamental symbiotic requirements of life. I believe, also, that all carnivores are descended from once noble ancestors who lived without stealth and murder. They have undergone modifications of structure and function (chiefly losses) to adapt themselves to their changed way of life and anti-symbiotic diet.


    To return to bats, which have been previously mentioned, I think we can get a better picture of the correlation of food and food-getting with structure than the various tribes of man can supply.


    There are a great number of kinds of bats in the world and they are of various sizes. In their dietetic habits they range all the way from strict frugivores to rank carnivores and cannibals. One variety of bat has actually become a blood sucker — a vampire. Some of them have not completely abandoned their fruit diet, but eat both fruit and flesh. Some are insectivorous, others are known to catch fish. It is interesting to note that the intestines of the vampire bat is shorter in proportion than that of any other beast, while its stomach is prolonged into a long tubular pouch. Its teeth are unlike that of any other bat - in bats generally the incisors are small and the "canines" are large, but in the blood-sucker the upper incisors and "canines" are both large and very sharp edged, while its grinders, not being required by its blood-diet, have degenerated into small and unimportant vestiges. The fruit eating bats are larger than their meat eating relatives.


    The last sentence is good to know, for us vegans

    And the next sentence is good also, we do not have the monstruosity and bad odor of carnivores


    It may not be amiss to point out that the repellent features and odor of insectivorous, carnivorous, cannibalistic and vampire bats are lacking in the fruit eating bats. Indeed, one naturalist says of the fruit eating bats that "with their keen, intelligent-looking, doe-like heads." they "inspire nothing but friendly interest when seen at close hand, and might quite probably be popular as pets if they were better known." The hammer-head bat of the Gabu district of French Equatorial Africa, a fruit eater with a great partiality for figs, is an exception to the better-looking qualities of the frugivorae. He is described as hideous, though in his photograph he is not as hideous as the carnivore. Monstrosity is everywhere the outgrowth of illegitimate food and food-getting.


    The bats show us an unbroken descent from strict frugivorae to frugo-carnivorae. to carni-vorae, to cannibals, to near parasites with a corresponding degeneration of form and loss of status with each step of their dietary degradation. They suffer negative compensations — losses and modifications of structures and functions—which are entailed by their illegitimate food supplies and methods of food-getting. The vampire bat has actually undergone some of the modifications seen in parasites.


    It would be possible to extend our study of comparative anatomy to cover many other parts of the body, but space limitations do not permit. It must suffice for the present that we say that among the higher apes there are several species of them whose alimentary organs in all respects very nearly resemble those of man and in that species which approaches closest to man in general organization and appearance, the alimentary organs, in almost every particular, so closely resemble those of man, that they are easily mistaken for them.


    Sylvester Graham used the alimentary organs of the orang-outang as "the true type with which we are to compare those of the human body, in order to ascertain the natural dietetic character of man. He pointed out that "in all that the organs of the orang differ from those of man, they bring the orang between man and carnivorous animals; and thus, as it were, push man still further from a carnivorous character."


    Graham wrote several years before Darwin derived man from an "ape-like arboreal ancestor." It has always seemed unaccountable to the present writer that transformationists (they have stolen the term evolution, and miscall themselves evolutionists), while insisting that man and the apes are brothers (or cousins) and are descended from a common ancestor and that man (or his ancestor) formerly lived in the trees (frugivorous) also at the same time, insist that primitive man was carnivorous, even cannibalistic. For, while his organization places him at the apex of creation and shows him to be the arch-type of the frugivorae, they have pictured him as more beastly than any beast."


    In his Outline of History, H. G. Wells, following the "scientific" pattern (or line) describes our early ancestor, just after he had emerged from the ape-stage, and says: "When he found dead animals, semi-putrid, he would relish them nonetheless. He would eat his unworthy children. He would seek larger animals in a weak and dying state. Failing to find them, dead and half-rotten examples would be made to suffice."


    This is the crowning achievement of our carnivorous biology. This "early man" who has been created by biological speculation, should have descended from a jackal or a hyena, not from an ape. His dietary habits as "described" by Wells, relate him to saprophytes (scavengers) and carnivorae and not to the frugivorae from which, according to the hypothesis, he sprung.


    It is our contention that, instead of early man being the degraded beast that Wells and most Darwinians picture him, the carnivores and saprophytes of the present and past have "fallen" from their once high estate to their present state of degradation.

    My opinion is the same as one comment I found on another vegan forum:


    "I thought misc was off-topic. That's a good comparitive chart, better if frugivore was on it also, although frugivore is meant to be type of herbivore, according to Wiki, but that has man down as Omnivore, being a mouthpiece for the Elite.

    Diet is the same with many other topics, orgonite, god, conspiracies etc. People don't want the truth if it rattles their beliefs.

    It looks to me as if man as Omnivore is one of the main beliefs that causes grief on the planet. For one thing it would be hard to kill 300 million animals with vivisection if we weren't killing millions for meat, and vivisection is what holds up allopathy that kills millions, addicts millions every year."

  4. Let's not worry too much, mankind will destroy itself with a nuclear war anyway, or could eventually be unable to reproduce at all, like in the movie Children of Men.

    Einstein said the 4th world war will be made with rocks and axe, because 3rd world war will already have destroyed everything and almost everybody, with atomic bombs or a new technology, chemical weapons like a deadly virus, and computer virus...

    More and more couples cannot have children, 1/3 of men are impotent or their sperm is poor quality. Millions of Americans use Viagra to be able to have an erection.

    With toxic chemicals in most of products everywhere, pollution in the air, soil and water that increase numbers of cancers, endocrine disruptors that make women become men and vice-versa and men have smaller penises, and gmo's and nano-particles that will make god only knows what.


    A blog about endocrine disruptors. http://xenoestrogens.blogspot.com/

    "decreasing sperm count in men all over the world, as well as the fact that the sperm men do produce have more incidents of mutations and are not as healthy as sperm studied 50 years ago."


    Everyone should read this article : http://nightly.net/topic/59562-pollution-cuases-smaller-penises/


    Watch this amazing parody of a scene from Woody Allen's "everything you always wanted to know about sex but were afraid to ask"

  5. Don't believe everything you read on the web, even on vegan web boards. Get your nutrition information from people with formal educations and degrees in nutrition who have an interest in veganism.

    And also, don't believe everything you read from people with formal educations and degrees in nutrition who have an interest in veganism. BeforeWisdom, haven't you noticed yet there are many scientific studies that contradict eachothers? Some are good some are not, and sometimes someone on the web may speak the truth while some dietetician with diploma may say things that are not entirely true.

    So we need to keep an open mind on everything but to be careful and to use our common sense. The human brain is the main tool to learn, study and observe our world so let's use our brain.

  6. In 2009 George *Rush* St-Pierre (UFC) went to a screening (and watched the whole movie) of the animal rights documentary Earthlings presented by George Laraque (ex-NHL player), he did the French dubbed version, promotes the dvd and he finds a place to show the movie for free (he rents the place with his money) once per month in Montreal and around the city.



    Laraque, Melissa (vegan activist, founder of vegan cupcakes company La Vegan en Rose) and GSP.

  7. 1 1/2 cup of chocolate soy milk

    1 serving of Vega Smoothie Chocolate flavoured or Prairie Natural Chocolate Hemp protein powder (30g)

    1 serving of pumpkin seed protein powder (30g)

    1-2 spoonful of carob powder

    3-5 drops of stevia


    You could add also some cinnamon and 1 banana


    About 25g protein per serving. sweet taste and pretty low in fat.

  8. What I've read wasn't only about trans fat, it was other things about polyuntarurated oils when cooked - sorry for not being more precise - and olive oil was one of the worst, alos because olive oil goes rancid very quickly, even if stored if a dark, dry and cool place; it started to become rancid when it was made at the facility and then it was exposed to light for who knows how long at the grocery store.

  9. Thank you! my life is getting better and better, that's the most important, or how much I enjoy life more and more, even if everything is not perfect.

    How is your life?

    It was not in Barre; where is Barre?

    It was at the Vipassana center of Quebec, called Dhamma Suttama which means the best of Dhamma, or beyond the best... in Sutton, Quebec, Canada. http://www.suttama.dhamma.org/gen/en/gen_home.en.htm A nice center, an American came to do the 10 days and then told me it was the most beautiful landscape, amongst the 4 or 5 different centers he went to meditate. But in a few months it will close... but the good news is that it close because Vipassana foundation will sell it and they recently bought an amazing center which will open this Spring or Summer and will be among the bigger and most beautiful vipassana meditation center in the world. The value of the building and the forest around it is over 15 million dollars but they got it for under 3 million, because it was under protection from bankrupty... It,s an old school, with huge gym which will be the meditation hall, and huge dining room, etc. The whole place is over 600 acres. I can't wait to go meditate or serve there; here is a video.


  10. I don,t really know what's with my camera but it keeps taking weird overexposed pics with horizontal lines. Wasn,t doing this before. Anyway here are my Before pics...

    Pics from today. I just started to go to the gym again and I go only twice per week. One day for upper body and one day for lower body but I like it! This way I have enough time left for yoga, meditation, reading and all the other things in my life.



    http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/organicspiral/muscles/DSC04740copy.jpg http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/organicspiral/muscles/DSC04747copy.jpg

  11. coconut oil is good raw (as well as coconut water, milk, etc) but is also the best choice for cooking oil as I've read polyunsaturated fats like most vegetable oil are very unstable and become trans fats etc. Saturated fats in coconut oil make it the best fat on Earth to use for cooking. And butter is one of the worst choice even if its saturated, because it burns easily and becomes dark, toxic.

  12. About 3 or 4 weeks ago I went to the gym almost every day for 2 weeks long, doing a split program. Then I didn'"t go to the gym at all since 2 weeks because of christmas, hollidays, and also been away 10 days to do Vipassana meditation in a center. Now I will only go to the gym 1 day per week for upper body and 1 day for lower body. The other days I go to a yoga studio or I train at home. Some days I do 50 push-ups, 50 pull-ups and 25 hand-stand push-ups... I'll do this each day except the post work-out day if my muscles are already sore.

  13. Open for discussion, but I'm finding a lot of evidence suggesting that the environmental aspect is a huge myth. Prior to 1970, all crops were organic and people starved, and food was healthier? Unhealthier?


    GM food is modified for heartiness, and health. How is it bad?


    Now that most food is not organic, people are still starving. Millions of people are dying of hunger or malnourrishment despite the promises of Monsanto and other gm crops producers that have been saying for over 15 years that their gm cron and soy will save the world. How come its not happening? It is the opposite. It ruined thousands of Indian farmers, now one indian farmer commit suicide each 7 minutes or something like that. Farmers around the world are now just slaves of those gm crops, companies and their insecticides. I recommand reading the book The World According to Monsanto, much better than the film. You don't see the big picture, see the GMO's issue with a holistic eye and from the point of view of Nature, don't forget that things were created and evolved the way they are and not the way we made it, now we are changing this, and we are against the law of nature, it is inevitable that it will turn against us in the future or right now. Just one example: we noticed that bees are dying; less and less bees, for mysterious reasons but experts suspect it is linked with GM crops. Albert Einstein said that the day bees will disappear, mankind will be able to survive just a few years longer.

    Unbelievable, now we mix genes of pics in strawberries or fish in tomatoes, we unleash some genetically modified mosquitos in nature, we give gm food to cattle along with grownt hormones and antibiotics and we are planning on genetically modify the cattle itself so that they produce less methane, etc...


    You think GM food is better for health? You must be kidding. So when you buy food you search for genetically modified stuff. If, as you say in your post, organic food is not so much better for the environment (which I highly doubt, since its more natural, requires less toxic chemicals, etc), it is impossible that non-organic food is superior for health; full of health-hazardous insecticides and pesticides, and the fact it is genetically modified is not good at all, the body is not designed to deal with something that does not exist in nature - and then we wonder why there's 1000% more allergies, cancers, asthma, diabetes etc than a few decades ago.


    There,s absolutly no benefits from gmo for the people, only for those who make and sell it.

  14. Hi Sophia, welcome!

    are you already vegan or is it part of the resolutions you wanna take for this new year?

    Who was that woman you met ? thai is awesome! Did you take a look at the profiles on this website maybe she is there.

  15. I am hoping to work towards entering a figure competition and have been told by both trainers I contacted that this can not be accomplished unless I am willing to eat meat, they even rufesed to help me build a training plan as it is pointless if I am planning on sabotaging it with a 'protein deficient diet'. According to the people I have been in touch with any protein source that comes as a secondary macro nutrient to carbs isn't true protein....


    ahahaha, obviously those "trainers" and "dieteticians" don't know shit, there has been and still are many vegetarian bodybuilders. Bill Pearl (Mr.Universe 1971), Roy Hilligen, Andreas Cahling, Ben France, etc, athletes like Brendan Brazier... on this forum website there is Jimi Sitko, Robert Cheeke, etc...


    Some vegetarian/vegan athletes http://www.veggie.org


    * Hank Aaron (home run champion, baseball) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian

    * B J Armstrong (US Basketball star)

    * Al Beckles (body builder)

    * Sorya Bonali (ice skater)

    * Les Brown (veteran runner)

    * Peter Burwash (tennis)

    * Andreas Cahling (bodybuilder)

    * Chris Campbell (1980 world champion wrestler)

    * Joanna Conway (ice skater)

    * Sylvia Cranston (triathlete)

    * Sally Eastall (Marathon runner - UK No 2, vegan)

    * Di Edwards (runner, Olympic semi-finalist)

    * Katie Fitzgibbon (marathon runner)

    * Clare Francis (sailer)

    * Louis Freitas (body builder)

    * Carol Gould (marathon runner)

    * Estelle Gray (cyclist) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian

    * Sammy Green (runner)

    * Ruth Heidrich (3-time Ironman finisher, marathoner, age-group record holder, Pres. Vegetarian Society of Honolulu) (vegan) Source: personal acquaintance, also...her book--A Race for Life

    * Sally Hibberd (British Women's Mountain Bike Champion)

    * Sharon Hounsell (Miss Wales Bodybuilding Champion)

    * Desmond Howard (formerly w/Washington Redskins, now w/Jacksonville Jaguars) Source: PETA

    * Roger Hughes (Welsh National Ski Champion)

    * David Johnson (BAA coach)

    * Kathy Johnson (Olympic Gymnast)

    * Alan Jones (British ski jumper)

    * Billie Jean King (tennis champion) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian

    * Killer Kowalski (wrestler) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian

    * Jack LaLanne (Fitness guru) (vegan)

    * Donnie LaLonde (Former Light Heavyweight Champion of the World. (Lost title to Sugar Ray Leonard)) Source: Article in San Jose Mercury News

    * Tony LaRussa (Manager of St. Louis Cardinals - US team) Source: PETA, Animals Agenda, Animals Voice, Veg Times, others

    * Silken Laumann (Olympic rower) Source: Cooking Television Show

    * Judy Leden (British, European & World Hang Gliding champion)

    * Marv Levey (Buffalo Bills Coach)

    * Jutta Müller (multiple Windsurfing World Cup Champion) Source: Flutlicht 95/6/18 on Südwest 3 (German TV program)

    * Jack Maitland (triathlete and fell runner)

    * Cheryl Marek (cyclist) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian

    * Leslie Marx (fencer;1996 woman's epee national champion)

    * Kirsty McDermott (runner)

    * Lindford McFarquar (body builder)

    * Robert Millar (cyclist)

    * Katherine Monbiot (world champion arm wrestler & nutritionist) (vegan) Source: Vegan Society UK

    * Monika Montsho (weightlifter, 2 x runnerup GB Championships 60kg, NW woman weightlifter 1991)

    * Edwin Moses

    * Martina Navratilova (Retired Tennis Champion) Source: Magazine Interviews/Genesis Awards

    * Julie Ann Niewiek (Basketball commentator) Source: Grand Rapids press/ Image Magazine

    * Paavo Nurmi

    * Robert Parish (Center - Warriors, Celtics, Hornets, Bulls) Source: Hearsay

    * Bill Pearl (Bodybuilder, Mr America) Source: Getting Stronger by Bill Pearl, pg 399

    * Bill Pearl (Mr. Universe and bodybuilder) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian

    * Anthony Peeler (NBA Grizzlies basketball player) Source: NBA web site profiles

    * Sopata, Craig (well known golfer in the New York TRI state area. and also a semi-pro skateboarder. He went to Purdue University).

    * Dave Scott (5-time winner of the Ironman Triathlon) (vegan) "The New Laurel's Kitchen" cookbook

    * Debbie Spaeth-Herring (Georgia State power-lifter) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian

    * Jonathon Speelman (chess)

    * Lucy Stephens (triathlete - vegan)

    * Jacques Vaughn (All American point guard, #1-ranked Univ of KS Jayhawks) Source: Lawrence (KS) Journal World (numerous editions)

    * Kirsty Wade (runner)

    * Bill Walton (basketball player) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian

  16. ....My treatment now makes me very nauseous....

    This sounds like simply a side-effect of the medicine. Can you get your doctor to prescribe an anti-nausea medication?


    you began to feel nauseaus about 2 months ago and you stopped eating vegan a few months ago. hm... But if its caused by the medecine, it is kind of ridiculous to take medecine to releive side effects of another medecine, and who knows how many different drugs you will need to counter each drug. Of course if you have no choice take them otherwise stop and the fasting idea is good too.

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