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  1. of course you can achieve good health with raw foods, and i still eat mostly raw food! But just by adding protein to my diet increased dramatically my strengh when i train! when i was 100% raw, it was really painful to lift weights. i remained 2 years raw, and my progression in lifting weight was bad. I believed that "I just have to stick with it to get results"!!!! But believe it didn't happen. also how can you explain that my strengh went to roof just by adding protein, and this in a matter on just 1 week? it's not an optic illusion! By the way, people on raw food ARE skinny, not only the people i know, but also all raw gurus, and all people i talked with in all this time in forums board look really skinny! if you don't agree with me, just watch any picture of any raw foodist in any forum or site.....and yes they're not bodybuilding as they should, not because they don't want to....but because they just can't do it! do you lift weights?
  2. hello everybody, i would like introduce mysef, and share my point of view i'm lebanese, living in south france, just graduated (Osteopathy). Sorry if i make some mistakes wity my english I used to think that we don't need as much protein as claimed...but i was wrong. There is a wrong belief, specially raw foodists (i used to be one for a long period of time, and fruitarian for a shorter period, then followed 80/10/10 diet for several month), that we only need little protein. They support their idieas by saying "look at cow, gorrillas, elephants! they're so powerful a huge, and all they eat is grass. i believed those stuff for a long time...until i made my own research and found out that cows, or any herbivore get HUGE amounts of protein from greens (greens are between 20% to 30% protein by calories), and grasses amino acids are COMPLETE protein containing all essential amino acids (somewhere between soy protein and milk protein. (make your own research to verify my sayings) the same goes goes for the gorillas who eats mosty green leafy vegetables. Needless to say that carnivores get also huge amounts (and fat instead of carbohydrates) Others primates like chimps (the closest to humans) eats primarly fruits (gorillas eats primarly greens), but they do also eat several pounds of greens to be sure to get enough protein, because fruits are the lowest...they even hunt small animals and eat them to get even more protein. Birds? needless to say that they eat a wide variety of grains and seeds...needless to say that they contain considerable amounts of protein. Also a lot of birds eat small animals or insects, full of protein. fish? they also get huge amount of protein. So we aren't differents from all animals, and we need considerable amounts of proteins. evidence are bodybuilders who would eat anything to be stronger a have bigger muscles!!!! it's a fact now, and it's proven. Another evidence is that you'll never see a raw foodist with big muscles. Rarely some of them succeded to get ripped (Richard blackman) with fruitarian diet, with a lot of extreme training...but most of them look extremely skinny (that's my opinion). about hemp protein, it's 100% a complete protein, most of the protein is a globulin (simplest protein, very near to red blood cells protein) and the other part is albumin. the thing is that it's very expensive, so i found out a way to get it a lot more cheaper, by buying hemp flour, which is hemp seeds with a part of their oils removed. The only difference with the expensive hemp, is that it contains a lot more fiber (because of the hull which hasn't been removed). I orded 4 pounds for less than 20$ (about 15 euros). But i didn't receive it yet, so i can't tell you if it's worth it But i'll let you know soon take care Elie
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