MEET YOUR MEAT

[compassionategirl]

If its good enough for your stomach, it should be good enough for your eyes. Make sure your speakers are on because it has narration which makes it more informative.

 

 

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=meet_your_meat

 

peace, man, peace.

Edited November 4, 2005 by compassionategirl

[V VII Hero]

an ex-gf of mine watched this while I was dancing at a hxcfest up in Poughkeepsie, and she decided to stop eating meat. but once she dumped me, she went back to eating meat and since she turned 21, she became an alocholic.

 

but anyway, yeh I can never watch these videos all the way thru. I normally end up crying or puking. its soo messed up. very effective videos.

[brendan]

It's been a while since I've seen that video, but watching it again made me realize that if most people had to do what the slaughterhouse workers are shown doing, they wouldn't be able to - it'd be much easier just to go eat some nice, clean vegetables.

 

As I said once before, my sister's ex-boyfriend, who was raised on a farm, worked at a hog slaughterhouse for an internship one summer and he went home crying every night. He couldn't stand having to electrically prod the pigs back in line while they were squealing and attempting to free themselves. It's not easy for anyone.

 

Thanks for posting that.

[compassionategirl]

As I said once before, my sister's ex-boyfriend, who was raised on a farm, worked at a hog slaughterhouse for an internship one summer and he went home crying every night. He couldn't stand having to electrically prod the pigs back in line while they were squealing and attempting to free themselves. It's not easy for anyone.

 

Thanks for posting that.

 

Your welcome.

 

I disagree with your assertion that "IT's not easy for anyone." In fact, this is grossly inaccurate, and lends support to the false notion that the meat industry "isnt so bad", "isnt so evil", "does what it has to do to survive." Nothing could be further from the truth. Not everybody in the meat and dairy industry is as sensitive and compassionate and guilt-ridden as your sister's ex, and please dont make the mistake of thinking that they are. This would be a great injustice for animals. Most of the workers in this industry are callous, sadistic and evil animal rapers and torturers:

 

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=virgil

 

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=perdue

 

This is why J. Lo is a cold-hearted, evil, superficial bitch. She has seen these videos and thinks feeling "glamorous" is more important, no matter what the cost is to the animals:

 

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=fur_farm

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=j_lopez

 

 

Think wool isnt so bad because animals dont need to die for it? Think again:

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=wool

 

 

This is what the vivisection industry DOESNT want you to know:

 

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=covance

 

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=malish

 

 

This is what is wrong with Thanksgiving turkey:http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=t_giving

 

This is what is wrong with animals made to perform in circuses or put on display at zoos:http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=ringling-bros

 

This is what is wrong with buying a pet from a pet shop:

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=charlize-theron-pupply-mill

 

Please instead save one of them. They dont deserve to die like this:

 

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=yadkin_county

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=acgs_web

 

This is the life of a dairy cow and her calves:

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=unhappy-cows

 

 

Have you ever had foie gras ? This is what you have been missing out on:

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=foie_gras_long

 

This is what is wrong with eggs:

 

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=inside_egg

 

Think kosher meat is guaranteed to be more humane. Here is a wake up call:

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=agri_long

 

Here is what Al-Jazeera DIDNT want to air:

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=al_jazeera_wool

 

The urgency of the cause should now be crystal clear.

 

PLEASE STOP THESE ATROCITIES NOW. GO VEGAN FOR LIFE, AND ASK OTHERS TO DO THE SAME. THESE VOICELESS, VULNERABLE AND INNOCENT ANIMALS NEED ALL THE FRIENDS THEY CAN GET.

 

Who can blame vegans for being pissed off and fed up? None of the above will change until DEMAND for these "items" are so significantly dimished that it is no longer profitable to manufacture them. Please do your part by removing your support of these industries. Buy ethical products from ethical companies.

 

 

PEACE

Edited August 16, 2005 by compassionategirl

[compassionategirl]

It's been a while since I've seen that video, but watching it again made me realize that if most people had to do what the slaughterhouse workers are shown doing, they wouldn't be able to - it'd be much easier just to go eat some nice, clean vegetables.

 

 

yes, unfortunately, many people couldnt do any of these things on the video with their own bare hands (which is obviously a GOOD reflection on them, not a bad one!!). but, i ask those people, where is the integrity in paying somebody else to do what you cannot even bare to watch, let alone do yourself?

 

peace

Edited August 3, 2005 by compassionategirl

[compassionategirl]

an ex-gf of mine watched this while I was dancing at a hxcfest up in Poughkeepsie, and she decided to stop eating meat. but once she dumped me, she went back to eating meat and since she turned 21, she became an alocholic.

 

but anyway, yeh I can never watch these videos all the way thru. I normally end up crying or puking. its soo messed up. very effective videos.

 

Topher,

 

What fool would dump a gem like you?

 

And as far as the video goes, you dont need to watch it. Your conscience has already compelled you to go vegan. You dont need convincing.

 

if they are hell to watch, imagine how the animals in them must have felt before they were lucky enough to die?

[brendan]

I disagree with your assertion that "IT's not easy for anyone." In fact, this is grossly inaccurate, and lends support to the false notion that the meat industry "isnt so bad", "isnt so evil", "does what it has to do to survive." Nothing could be further from the truth. Not everybody in the meat and dairy industry is as sensitive and compassionate and guilt-ridden as your sister's ex, and please dont make the mistake of thinking that they are. This would be a great injustice for animals. Most of the workers in this industry are callous, sadistic and evil animal rapers and torturers:

 

Oops, that's not what I intended with saying it isn't easy for anyone. It's obviously easy for someone if animal agribusiness is so lucrative. I was trying to show how surprising it was to see a farm boy, who you would expect to be accustomed to slaughter, become so affected by the slaughterhouse. I guess, however, I work from the assumption that everyone is basically good - or at least starts off that way - but either by cultural indocrination or habit loses sympathy toward animals somewhere along the line and becomes numb to the grim reality at hand.

[brendan]

yes, unfortunately, many people couldnt do any of these things on the video with their own bare hands (which is obviously a GOOD reflection on them, not a bad one!!). but, i ask those people, where is the integrity in paying somebody else to do what you cannot even bare to watch, let alone do yourself?

 

peace

 

Well said!

[compassionategirl]

I disagree with your assertion that "IT's not easy for anyone." In fact, this is grossly inaccurate, and lends support to the false notion that the meat industry "isnt so bad", "isnt so evil", "does what it has to do to survive." Nothing could be further from the truth. Not everybody in the meat and dairy industry is as sensitive and compassionate and guilt-ridden as your sister's ex, and please dont make the mistake of thinking that they are. This would be a great injustice for animals. Most of the workers in this industry are callous, sadistic and evil animal rapers and torturers:

 

Oops, that's not what I intended with saying it isn't easy for anyone. It's obviously easy for someone if animal agribusiness is so lucrative. I was trying to show how surprising it was to see a farm boy, who you would expect to be accustomed to slaughter, become so affected by the slaughterhouse. I guess, however, I work from the assumption that everyone is basically good - or at least starts off that way - but either by cultural indocrination or habit loses sympathy toward animals somewhere along the line and becomes numb to the grim reality at hand.

 

oh okay now I see what you meant. actually, this is a really good point. the ones in the industry that actually had a conscience and a soul have truned veg and many more will too i am sure. Virgil Butler, for example, was employee of the month at Tyson Slaugherhouses, which is the slaughterhouse that is exposed in one of the videos I provide above. He is now vegetarian, goiong towards vegan. I personally know somebody who also worked at the slaugherhouse like did your sister's ex - it took him only three weeks to quit not only the job, but quit eating meat altogether.

 

and, of couse, there is Howard Lyman - former cattle rancher turned vegan. This is the guy that exposed the meat industry for what it really was on the Oprah Winfrey show. In response to his inside knowledge of the industry, which he shares with the viewers, Opraah proclaimed "I will never eat another hamburger again." They were both sued by the American Ranchers Asssociation, because after that show aired, beef sales plummetted, but Howard Lyman and Oprah won in court . I am no great fan of Oprah Winfrey, but this wasnt just a victory for her - it was a victory for the animals and a great loss for the beef ranchers of America

 

peace y'all

[brendan]

Hey, didn't Oprah and Lyman end up losing in appeals court? And the pain of excessive litigation later forced her to rescind her comments and basically silenced any similar media criticism of the cattle industry because of so-called 'veggie libel' laws? Eh? Can't remember.

 

I've met Howard Lyman. Cool dude.

[compassionategirl]

Hey, didn't Oprah and Lyman end up losing in appeals court? And the pain of excessive litigation later forced her to rescind her comments and basically silenced any similar media criticism of the cattle industry because of so-called 'veggie libel' laws? Eh? Can't remember.

 

I've met Howard Lyman. Cool dude.

 

Not that I can recall. This was some years ago but from what I can remember they won.

 

Am I recalling wrong?

 

If what you are saying is true, Brenden, then the animals were further silenced by this outcome

 

And to College B: If Brendan's info is the most recent up to date info, then here is another thing that you can bring into your presentation about how animals are treated as a minority group by the laws.

 

But PLEASE somebody tell me that the cattle ranchers lost on appeal.

[compassionategirl]

okay i have some great news!!!

 

it looks like my original info is still correct. The texas ranchers LOST their appeal and are not permitted to appeal anywhere again!!!!

 

For an overview and details of the circumstances surrounding this fascinating lawsuit, go here and read all about it!!!!

 

http://www.madcowboy.com/01_BookOP.000.html

 

ha, you SUCK you damn cowboys!!!!

[brendan]

Woot! Thanks for the clarification. Hey, free speech not only lives, it rocks, right? Heh.

 

Maybe not so much ... Check this out for your research, CollegeB (from the site Natalie provided):

 

"But the battle isn't over. Thirteen states, including Texas, have passed laws designed to silence and intimidate those who expose unsafe and unhealthy factory farm and slaughterhouse practices. These so-called "food disparagement" laws make it a crime to criticize food and how it is produced."

[compassionategirl]

Woot! Thanks for the clarification. Hey, free speech not only lives, it rocks, right? Heh.

 

Maybe not so much ... Check this out for your research, CollegeB (from the site Natalie provided):

 

"But the battle isn't over. Thirteen states, including Texas, have passed laws designed to silence and intimidate those who expose unsafe and unhealthy factory farm and slaughterhouse practices. These so-called "food disparagement" laws make it a crime to criticize food and how it is produced."

 

So to all you people out there that are still in denial about the meat industry - you see the forces that are trying to SILENCE animals AND silence the people who are concerned about consumer health? LIke I have always maintained, these industries DONT give a DAMN about consumer health, let alone about any basic animal welfare. All they care is about making money and keeping costs as low as possible so as to maximize their profit margins, even if that means that people have died because of mad cow disease - which could have been totally prevented if there was any place for ethics and morality in these industries. the forces working against truth are still as strong as ever, and people's lives, literally, are on the line.

 

The biggest example of organized crime are the meat and dairy industries!!!

 

Wake up, and go vegan, before its too late. Do it for your health, do it for the animals, do it as a matter of principle, JUST DO IT! Starting now.

 

peace.

[willpeavy]

Most of the workers in this industry are callous, sadistic and evil animal rapers and torturers:

 

 

A large number of slaughterhouse laborers in the U.S. are migrant workers who are trying to escape oppressive, third world conditions. Most of them hate their job - they get paid less than minimum wage, injuries are common, and the companies they work for don't treat them much better than they treat the animals. In David Nibert's book "Animal Rights / Human Rights" he deals with this topic, also here's a relevant article http://www.organicconsumers.org/irrad/slaughterworkers.cfm

[compassionategirl]

This is a good point, and one that i have neglected to mention. So let me set the record straight:

 

 

Domestically, slaugherhouses are dens of death not just for animals, but for the people that work in them. Slaugherthouses have the highest rate of injury, the highest turnover rate, the highest repeat-injury rate, and the highest rate of accidental death of any industry in the country. Slaugherthouse workers have 9 times the injury rate of coal miners in Appalachia. A few years ago, the Center for Public Integrity, a congressional watchdog group, released a report called, "Safety Last: The Politics of E. COli and Other Foode-Borne Killers." THis report points out that slaugheruouses are continaully searching for replacement workers nd have to bus people up from Mexico and Central America to slaughterhouses in Iowa, Mnnesota, and elsewhere. "Just as easily as the meat-packing companies court and transport immigrant labor to their Mid Western plants," the report explains, "they betray them, turning them and tehir families over to the immigration authorities. And in the ultimate act of cruelty and coruption, the companies then seek out the lucky ones that escaped the immigration raids to hire them back to stand on the killing floor again." The same point was made in a more recent book called Fast Food Nation by investigative journalist Eric Schlosser.

 

But all that the foregoing does is lend further PROOF POSITIVE that the meat and dairy industry is vile, unethical, immoral, untrustworthy, evil, greedy and selfish.

 

But, I am sorry but I dont give a damn who you are or what hardships that you face, there is STILL NO EXCUSE for the appalling, vile, evil acts of sadism that have been caught on NUMEROUS tapes at NUMEROUS different slaugherthouses and companies. If you have the heart to spit tobacco into the eyes of an innocent and already terrified animal, JUST FOR SOME SICK FUN, I WONT be crying for you Argentina no matter what hell hole country you came from or no matter how many dependants you have.

 

There is simply NO EXCUSE for what is captured in these exposes. None whatsoever. I am sure you agree with me there Will. And it is naive anad foolish to think that these type of cruel acts are the exception rather than the norm. This would be a gross miscalculation. The evidence is abundant, and it is backed up by common sense.

 

Meat is evil. In every single way that matters.

[Richard]

I have a problem that omnivores that I know won't watch Meet Your Meat because they say it will put them off their food (duh). I don't know how to get them to watch and face up to their actions. I have watched part of MYM, but it made me so sick I would have fainted, and I have no need to see it, so I stopped watching. I am pumped all the time about animal cruelty, it freaks me out constantly to think of the torture and suffering, and I hate it that humans in general don't give a crap.

[CollegeB]

I think it would be great to have a halloween gathering and play MYM and other slaughterhouse footage. Serve up some vegan food, relate it to the video say "here eat this don't support that." Ask people if they want to watch horror movies or something. Be prepared to have some pissed off guests if you do that though since asking people to watch horro movies probably means something different to them than meet your meat.

[Richard]

I think it would be great to have a halloween gathering and play MYM and other slaughterhouse footage. Serve up some vegan food, relate it to the video say "here eat this don't support that." Ask people if they want to watch horror movies or something. Be prepared to have some pissed off guests if you do that though since asking people to watch horro movies probably means something different to them than meet your meat.

 

They would probably say that you shouldn't watch MYM for pleasure, and that that is sick. That would be their flimsy line of reasoning as to why they wouldn't watch it in that scenario. But that in itself underlines that there's something wrong with animal slaughter, if it can at all be considered to be sick.

[sirdle]

Thanks for posting that, CG. That was wonderful/horrifying. Very intense.

[compassionategirl]

Thanks for posting that, CG. That was wonderful/horrifying. Very intense.

 

and unfortunately, very "reality" and very "happening right now"

 

u welcome. I purposefully posted a whole range of links to videos pertaining to a whole range of issues from wool right to animal testing to eating animals to circuses, "kosher" meats, etc.

 

The reason was so there is a source/information post in this community that can kind of act as a library. We can all now have quick and easy access to any of these issues/topics, by the simple click of a link, and can forward them to anybody we need to or wish to for whatever reason. Eg. If you have a friend in denial about the "wrongness" of circuses, simply send them the link so as to inform them of the REAL story behind circuses - the one that Ringling Brothers doesnt want you to see. Basically, this thread will be like a library corner at veganbuilding.com in terms of actual "see for yourself" video footage of undercover animal abuse in various industries.

 

 

peace

[sirdle]

The reason was so there is a source/information post in this community that can kind of act as a library. We can all now have quick and easy access to any of these issues/topics, by the simple click of a link, and can forward them to anybody we need to or wish to for whatever reason.

That is a great idea. Maybe we can get Robert to add a new category on the home page for Links or References. He could put it under the General Section.

[Vamprilla]

OMG that's sick! Ok, fine, I'm going Vegan! Jesus, why don't we just castrate some of the guys out there with no pain killers. Shit. Ok, sorry for the swearing. Totaly showing my parents this So they know why I'm going Vegan... Or as much as I can.

[compassionategirl]

Hey Vamprilla,

 

 

Thanks for having the courage to watch (you too Sirdle)!!! That is really all I ask of people - please just watch and then decide for yourself what you think is the kindest course of action.

 

But people who wont even see or hear the truth, that just keep chomping on a steak with blinders and ear plugs on - now those are the kind of people that bring out the violent side of this compassionate girl!!!

 

P.S. Vamprilla, I know you might have already answered this - but which of the two pictures is really you?

 

P.P.S. That is a great idea Sirdle!!!

 

P.P.S. I just had another GREAT idea based on what Vamprilla said. IF anybody out there - family or friends - give you a hard time or even questions you as to why you are trying to be vegan, simply send them an email, with the link to meet your meat, and say "Here's why." Honestly this is a GREAT idea in getting the truth of what really goes on in the meat industry to kind and decent people that probably are just uninformed! What great way to change hearts and minds!!

 

Seriously, if anybody ever asks you again, even very politely or genuinely, in a non-attacking kind of way, why we are vegan, the politely refer them to meat your meat link and say "Here is why I am vegan." It's a great idea Vamprilla to send this to your parents if they dont understand what is motivating you.

 

peace

Edited August 16, 2005 by compassionategirl

[compassionategirl]

OMG that's sick! Ok, fine, I'm going Vegan! .

 

I had the SAME reaction to this that you did Vamp!!! Right then and there, I made up my mind to go vegan. I felt (and still feel) the same sense of shock, urgency and "woken up" feeling that is conveyed by the tone of your message. As far as I was concerned, I was morally compelled to do so - I saw myself as having no other choice after having seen all that.

 

I havent looked back since. My skin cleared up, my allergies just disappeared into thin air, etc. etc. etc. The anecdotal and statistical /clinical health benefits are numerous. I have never felt better, never been healthier, never before felt more "attune" and sensitive to the needs of others and to nature in general.

 

An evolved sense of consciousness is such an amazing feeling!!!

 

Peace