Honey

[endcruelty]

bottom line: honey comes from an animal (debate all you want if they feel pain and all that other crap) if you eat honey, you aint vegan in my book.... under the same umbrella when you say you're vegetarian and you eat fish..... an animal is an animal, no matter what they lack or how intelligent they are

[escapee]

see We have already sent men to the space. With the kind technology that we currently possess, I always wonder if it's possible for the industrial scientists to build some kind of robotic bees that would harvest honey for us in a much more ethical and safer manner . In that way, we would not enslave and hurt the bees.

 

Healing power of Honey

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s978921.htm

[escapee]

Bees gather pollen in sacs and nectar from the flowers. Honey is stored in the hive as winter food for the bees . Yes, sometimes they make more than they can eat, but do the beekeepers only take the extra? No, according to James E. Tew, an Extension Specialist in Apiculture at Ohio State University in Wooster, "Commercial beekeepers frequently extract [steal] all fall-season honey and then feed colonies either sugar syrup or corn syrup in quantities great enough to provide all the winter food the bees would need" . >

 

Omg ..

 

http://www.vegetus.org/honey/honey.htm

[Guest]

see We have already sent men to the space. With the kind technology that we currently possess, I always wonder if it's possible for the industrial scientists to build some kind of robotic bees that would harvest honey for us in a much more ethical and safer manner . In that way, we would not enslave and hurt the bees.

 

Healing power of Honey

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s978921.htm

 

It has been done...its called the giant agave bee...a person dressed up as a bee sucks all the nectar out of an agave plant and makes human bee honey

[escapee]

I have never heard of giant agave bee (human bee) , it must be a newly invented technology by the pentagon designed to control the world honey resource.

[Guest]

Its the sierra clubs invention...they want to minimize some hunting so hunting is available in the future for our children..same with having honey for future generations

[fudgam]

-No sarcasm-

 

Cognitive ability is not the basis for moral and/or inherent value. If it was, IQ, memory and standardized testing would be a basis for your moral worth (analogies can seem a little rough around the edges, I know).

 

Rather, a different basis for rights must be established; thats another discussion, but the abilility to feel pain seems to be a big candidate.

 

While the behavior of insects is indeed largely inate and determined by genetics, I find it hard to belive that bees, specifically, do not feel pain.

 

Do they lack a central nervous system? Ive heard of similar discussion about jellyfish, which do lack a central nervous system, leaving only a peripheral nervous system. While the peripheral nerves do detect stimuli, there is [debatably] no actual pain, similar to a plant's respnse to stimlui.

 

Back to bees, and similar to the jellyfish, the stance of "siding with compassion" is often taken. While in doubt, side with compassion, which dictates leave the bees alone.