vegansludge Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Admit my eating wasn't great today. Always tricky with working shifts :/ I feel you - I just relocated and am now working two jobs. And while one of them is at a grocery store (at Whole Foods, nonetheless) it's still hard for me to plan my meals and because I'm strapped for cash and always on-the-go. I've been seriously slacking on making sure I'm eating big and hitting my protein-need but I plan on changing that as soon as I get paid this Friday. Luckily, that'll also be the last session I'll be testing 1RMs so I can jump right in on Monday. From then on it's Eat Big, Sleep Big, Get Big.' To prepare for that, I plan on making a massive PWO shepherd's pie with sweet potatoes for the top layer instead of those boring old regular ones. Quick question: I know you don't count your macros but whereabouts do you think your fat-intake is? Unless there's a lot in the fake chicken/meats, I assume you get most of it from just the 2TB PB and the eggs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiesasquatch Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 For fats I was adding 1 table spoon of olive oil into my shakes. Also pb, avocados, fake meats like soya burgers, quorn products. Of course pizza. Try having a bagel with pb & honey & a breakfast shake. 300ml milk, 2-3 table spoons oats, 1 banana & scoop of protein & whizz it up, If you can two bagels lol. My gains have been pretty great in all honesty but maybe when i get to the point i need to cut, i will start crunching the numbers a bit more. If you want any advice ect feel free to pm man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegansludge Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Thanks a lot! I might do that once I get my calories/macros set and re-work my split if I'm not too sure about some things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiesasquatch Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Sounds rough but a tin of baked beans, 150g pasta & a good serving of your fav substitute cheese will also be very filling & also excellent fuel. I swear by that meal & is very cheap Good protein content too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegansludge Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Sounds rough but a tin of baked beans, 150g pasta & a good serving of your fav substitute cheese will also be very filling & also excellent fuel. I swear by that meal & is very cheap Good protein content too Definitely will try this as I always neglect incorporating pasta into my diet. I tend to favor potatoes and oats for my carb sources. I do love me some baked beans, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiesasquatch Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 100g of pasta is also enough but as your bulking I'd up it a bit. Your looking at a complete meal with this, Carb off the pasta & the beans count towards your veggies. Also the fake cheese if you don't eat the real thing for fats. This will roughly have 45-50g of protein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas_Weir Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Usual Breakfast now (a single meal): Porridge: 100g oats (measured raw) cooked in 2 cups wateran apple, pear, or banana chopped up and put into it.1/2 tsp Cassia cinnamon1tbsp Flaxseedtopped with piping hot 'Soy milky lite' Soy milk 250ml water with 20g Sunwarrior Vanilla Protein Powder. A piece of wheat free toast with a nut butter and 100% fruit Jam (sometimes). Meal 5 (Dinner): Usually: 1/2 a head to 1 head of broccoli (steamed)1 carrot (steamed)1/2 sweet potato (steamed)4 brussel sprouts and a handful of green beans (steamed)100g tofu (Grilled) with bbq sauce. throughout the day i will have about: 3 pb and j sandwiches2 coffees2 more pieces of fruitmore porridge Another protein shake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegansludge Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 ^ Your ability to eat that much is enviable. I thought I just did well killing a can of black beans, half of a huge onion, a tomato, two whole wheat rolls, and a banana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas_Weir Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 ^ Your ability to eat that much is enviable. I thought I just did well killing a can of black beans, half of a huge onion, a tomato, two whole wheat rolls, and a banana. HAHA lol, thanks! Yeah I can eat quite a bit, my mother almost force feeds that much to me though, as she thinks I am too skinny. The amount of food you listed that you eat is equally as impressive! I should have mentioned that the half a head of broccoli that I eat equates to around 1 cup of broccoli (you probably were thinking of a larger head of broccoli hey). The food you listed sounds nice! I will have to try blackbeans as I haven't had them before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiesasquatch Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Here is my food for today. Before you read I'm not a full time vegan. I kinda drift in/out of it. The eggs I eat come from a women who rescued some battery hens. They live on a farm now & this women's hubby is vegan & runs his own human/animal chiropractor clinic. This coming week I have planned a vegan cycle for a wee while. 6:00 x2 scoop protein shake, x2 tbls peanut butter8:30 1cup oats with soya milk, 2 whole eggs & 2 egg whites11:30 100g pasta with 1 mixed cup of broccoli & peas x2 soya burgers2:30. 1 cup cooked brown rice, spring onion & mushroom with fake chicken 5:30. 1 banana & 1 pear7:30. Mixed leaf salad, tomatoes, onion chutney, pinenuts,balsamic dressing with tofu I ve mixed with various herbs. Home made garlic beard. X1 scoop protein11:00. I'll eat a type of replacement cheese before bed with a toasted pitta bread Minus the eggs that would be a good vegan meal day. The fake chicken is egg free. Over the pasta I'll slowing cook in 2 tbls of olive oil some chilli & garlic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas_Weir Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Here is my food for today. Before you read I'm not a full time vegan. I kinda drift in/out of it. The eggs I eat come from a women who rescued some battery hens. They live on a farm now & this women's hubby is vegan & runs his own human/animal chiropractor clinic. This coming week I have planned a vegan cycle for a wee while. 6:00 x2 scoop protein shake, x2 tbls peanut butter8:30 1cup oats with soya milk, 2 whole eggs & 2 egg whites11:30 100g pasta with 1 mixed cup of broccoli & peas x2 soya burgers2:30. 1 cup cooked brown rice, spring onion & mushroom with fake chicken 5:30. 1 banana & 1 pear7:30. Mixed leaf salad, tomatoes, onion chutney, pinenuts,balsamic dressing with tofu I ve mixed with various herbs. Home made garlic beard. X1 scoop protein11:00. I'll eat a type of replacement cheese before bed with a toasted pitta bread Minus the eggs that would be a good vegan meal day. The fake chicken is egg free. Over the pasta I'll slowing cook in 2 tbls of olive oil some chilli & garlic. The pasta sounds nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiesasquatch Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Here is my food for today. Before you read I'm not a full time vegan. I kinda drift in/out of it. The eggs I eat come from a women who rescued some battery hens. They live on a farm now & this women's hubby is vegan & runs his own human/animal chiropractor clinic. This coming week I have planned a vegan cycle for a wee while. 6:00 x2 scoop protein shake, x2 tbls peanut butter8:30 1cup oats with soya milk, 2 whole eggs & 2 egg whites11:30 100g pasta with 1 mixed cup of broccoli & peas x2 soya burgers2:30. 1 cup cooked brown rice, spring onion & mushroom with fake chicken 5:30. 1 banana & 1 pear7:30. Mixed leaf salad, tomatoes, onion chutney, pinenuts,balsamic dressing with tofu I ve mixed with various herbs. Home made garlic beard. X1 scoop protein11:00. I'll eat a type of replacement cheese before bed with a toasted pitta bread Minus the eggs that would be a good vegan meal day. The fake chicken is egg free. Over the pasta I'll slowing cook in 2 tbls of olive oil some chilli & garlic. The pasta sounds nice! Proper Asian chilli paste is great in this but it was aMission to find one without fish oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas_Weir Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Yeah I could imagine so. Asians just love to drown shit in fish oil, sauce, oyster sauce whenever they get the chance to, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiesasquatch Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) Seriously it tasted fucking awful anyway!! Smelled like the dried fish food flakes. Rank.... Edited November 22, 2011 by veggiesasquatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas_Weir Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Seriously it tasted fucking awful anyway!! Smelled like the dried fish food flakes. Rank.... Hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmar Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Breakfast Oatmeal, with a handful of Raisins and a chopped banana Snack. 3 slices of Rye Bread with peanut butter, tomato, onion and spinach Pre workout.5 fruits (oranges, apples, clementines) 3 vegetables ( Broccoli, Selleri, Carrots, Beats) Post workout.1 scoop of Sunwarrior neutral with water Lunch4 Slices of bread with, Avocado, Rucula, Tomatoes, Hemp seeds, Flax seeds, Pepper. Snack.Nuts with raisins Dinner. 2 wholewheat Pitas, Tomatoes, Becel plant butter, Red Onion, Green pepper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegansludge Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 My food scale came in the mail this week, allowing me to find out that I have most definitely been underestimating my intake, explaining my inability to make any gains. However, I also happened to receive a four lb. bag of pea/brown rice protein powder in the mail. Increase in cals + protein powder restock = winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiesasquatch Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Get one of those mega shakes I put up & a bagel . That'll be a a great kick start. Don't underestimate the power of x2 rounds of peanut butter sandwiches. These were aKey part of my gains. What is your appetite like between meals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas_Weir Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Get one of those mega shakes I put up & a bagel . That'll be a a great kick start. Don't underestimate the power of x2 rounds of peanut butter sandwiches. These were aKey part of my gains. What is your appetite like between meals? Yeah, I eat 3 pb sandwiches right before bed each night so I know what you mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegansludge Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Appetite between meals is non-existent. I attribute a lot of this to still recovering from severely under-eating for a really long time before trying to bulk and then jumping straight into IF. I'm doing a lot better about eating big at least twice a day and then having "smaller" meals 2-3 times a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiesasquatch Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 At some point your metabolism should rank up providing your makin it work.You need to be aiming for four meals & 1-2 snacks (I'm guessing you know this already) Though I usually just eat a meal & not have snacks I find even after today's 3 soya burgers patties,100g pasta,one cup greens & quarter tin chickpeas my stomach was rumbling about 1 hr 15 mins later. Your appetite is a great indecation on your training. If its responding like I have said then its a great sign. If however your appetite is low chances are your over training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegansludge Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I only train three times a week for 60 minutes or 75 minutes tops. On training days, though, my appetite is huge - it's the other days that are pretty difficult despite not being sedentary. I'm probably just overthinking it since being a Former Fat Kid makes bulking a huge mindgame for me but I'm working on that, too. On a different note, my girlfriend is super supportive of me bulking - she's currently making a pretty epic whole wheat pasta dish for dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiesasquatch Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I only train three times a week for 60 minutes or 75 minutes tops. On training days, though, my appetite is huge - it's the other days that are pretty difficult despite not being sedentary. I'm probably just overthinking it since being a Former Fat Kid makes bulking a huge mindgame for me but I'm working on that, too. On a different note, my girlfriend is super supportive of me bulking - she's currently making a pretty epic whole wheat pasta dish for dinner. I also had to get over that when bulking being overweight in the past. But the gains are worth it. Don't be worried over getting a gut because it's all about getting weight on. You can always take it off when your ready to. Personally I'm strength/power lifting so I'm not all that fussed about a ripped look. I'm in it purely for the mass (when I was running I was pretty ripped) I train 3 times a week but mc wise all I use are cable tricep pulls, cable crunches (managed to crunch the whole stack this wk for for 8 reps) & maybe leg curls. Everything else is free weight/weighted body or compound. If your eat well on training days that's a good sign. I'm gonna order Indian food tomorrow, think I deserve it after a 60 hr working week & eating mega clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegansludge Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I focus on the big three lifts and only do a few other things at the end of each work out (generally burn sets with light weight) - I was concerned with being ripped when I first got into lifting but now I'm only concerned with getting stronger. In fact, I've been seriously considering doing powerlifting competitions later down the road and, even though that's a long ways away, it's definitely a big motivator for me. I smashed the pasta dinner and followed it up with a peanut butter cup and shake - felt good. And Indian food is always a good reward. I always go for that or Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiesasquatch Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I focus on the big three lifts and only do a few other things at the end of each work out (generally burn sets with light weight) - I was concerned with being ripped when I first got into lifting but now I'm only concerned with getting stronger. In fact, I've been seriously considering doing powerlifting competitions later down the road and, even though that's a long ways away, it's definitely a big motivator for me. I smashed the pasta dinner and followed it up with a peanut butter cup and shake - felt good. And Indian food is always a good reward. I always go for that or Thai. Awesome I'll have a look after your journal. I would usually design my own plans but I found a pretty sweet 5x5 3 day split over at builtfit. Getting some great results using that along with a lifting calculator. I'm de loading atm but the plan round 7 th week has me worried (in a good way) I'll get that Morrocan recipe to you over next couple of days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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