xjohanx Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 http://www.t-nation.com/article/most_recent/soy_whats_the_big_dealjust browsed throught it real quick. acctually seems to provide some good info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neven Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 hehe, I was just gonna put it here. Nice article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beforewisdom Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 Summary: We did a lot of reseach, soy doesn't seem to be a super food, but it doesn't seem to be a hazard either. We don't know anything so eat small amounts of traditional asian soy foods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjohanx Posted March 27, 2008 Author Share Posted March 27, 2008 Summary: We did a lot of reseach, soy doesn't seem to be a super food, but it doesn't seem to be a hazard either. We don't know anything so eat small amounts of traditional asian soy foods. yeah that pretty much sums it up. i think it was cool that the authors mentioned dairys and meats impact on estrogen levels and testicular development. not often you see statements like that on t-nation. the alcohol-part of the article was also very interesting Also, alcohol increases the activity of aromatase, an enzyme that converts Testosterone to estrogen in the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubby2112 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I didn't expect an article like that from there. Usually I see authors bashing soy there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRardB Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I loved the article. Hopefully it changes the mind of people who swear by whey and bash soy. I found a funny reply to a post by this dude who obviously must suffer from some sort of learning disability. I typed in "vegetarian" in T-Nation's search and clicked the first post. One of the replies was: I think you are facing an uphill battle, my friend. Whether you accept it or not, you're choice in diet is running directly counter to what is natural for your body. Can you survive on a diet that absent meat? Yes, but it won't be ideal. Can you thrive on such a diet? Only a small few with incredible genetics can withstand such abuse. And, to be clear, it isn't about the macronutrients (i.e., protein). It is about the micronutrients that exist aplenty in meat products. The analogs found in plants have been repeatedly proven to be much tougher for humans to absorb and utilize. No matter the form, plants are, simply put, one of the poorer found sources for human beings of all that exist and you have choosen to limit yourself to that group almost exclusively. It will be tough, to say the least. As I see them, your choices are (1) excel in lacrosse OR (2) remain a strict vegetarian. I do not believe you can do both, but I wish you the best. Not to change the subject, but this was funny. BTW, the guy who made the thread wasn't really vegetarian; he said he ate as much fish as he could (what an idiot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtjs Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 One of the authors posts on here. He is a vegan bodybuilder: Ryan Andrews, former dietitian at the Johns Hopkins Weight Management Center, is trained in Exercise Physiology (BS, MA, CSCS), Nutrition (MS), and Dietetics (RD, LD). After leaving Johns Hopkins, Ryan began working with Dr. Berardi as the Director of Research for Precision Nutrition, Inc. He's a nice guy. I've PMed him many times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9nines Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Good article. The author knew the facts, such as soy phytoestrogen is estrogen neutral or anti-estrogen. Anytime you see the opposite, an article stating soy is pro-estorgen or increases your estrogen uptake, you know it is a crap article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjohanx Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 One of the authors posts on here. He is a vegan bodybuilder: Ryan Andrews, former dietitian at the Johns Hopkins Weight Management Center, is trained in Exercise Physiology (BS, MA, CSCS), Nutrition (MS), and Dietetics (RD, LD). After leaving Johns Hopkins, Ryan began working with Dr. Berardi as the Director of Research for Precision Nutrition, Inc. He's a nice guy. I've PMed him many times before. that's really cool. what's his username? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtjs Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 One of the authors posts on here. He is a vegan bodybuilder: Ryan Andrews, former dietitian at the Johns Hopkins Weight Management Center, is trained in Exercise Physiology (BS, MA, CSCS), Nutrition (MS), and Dietetics (RD, LD). After leaving Johns Hopkins, Ryan began working with Dr. Berardi as the Director of Research for Precision Nutrition, Inc. He's a nice guy. I've PMed him many times before. that's really cool. what's his username? rdandrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjohanx Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 kewl. hope he can write more articles for t-nation. i really like the concept of that site but sometimes it gets really frustrating when they bash on veganism all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtjs Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 kewl. hope he can write more articles for t-nation. i really like the concept of that site but sometimes it gets really frustrating when they bash on veganism all the time. I hear you. I stick to reading the training articles and don't even bother looking at the eating ones. But supplements ones i do read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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