RAINRA Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJotVmkRf4ER U Kidding me? This guy is gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veganmama Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 I have no words... how stupid could one person sound. really? I love your comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINRA Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 yeah real dummy he does not want to change he wants to debate to prove himself right... it is just a bunch of nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollegeB Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 Let him keep reading junk from Singer and go on to the next person who might actually make some meaningful change in their life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINRA Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 After listening to Gary Francion it I do agree that Singer and others like him are on the wrong path. Education is the key. Not just making happy farms to make people feel better about eating meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan Joe Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 The lion is going to tear him up in an inhumane way. Yeah you've got to respect those human lions. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha HaOh yeah and we definitly have to stop hedge trimming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINRA Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 sometimes people just love to hear themselves talk... like this dude in the vid. I think he needs to think about what he said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couture547 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I thought he was pretty fair, i thought it would be really bad. I really agree with him on 1 major point, You need to be more Pro Vegan rather then just Anti meat if we hope to make the movement bigger therefore lesson the suffering and killing of animals. i mean on the couple threads in the Heath section we had a couple members here saying that we evolved to eat meat and that plant protein is inferior to animal proteins and so on. Telling people to go to a inferior diet nutritionally isn't a good way at all to sell veganism. then you could say well what about the killing of animals? we'll you just got done saying we're made to eat them, so i hear alot of double speak and alot of anti meat but not pro veganism. I belive that Veganism is a Win win win all the way around the board and unless you approch it as such the movement will be slowed drastically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINRA Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 yeah I agree that people need to show more the benefits and hype the truth about veganism. Unfortunately to being positive the main reason many are vegan is because animals are terribly treated and on top commodified. If I had not seen animal slaughter I may not be vegan now. I was on the line eating 3 0z of fish and chicken then I saw earthlings and it all just made sense. Works together the Negative and the Positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan Joe Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I thought he was pretty fair, i thought it would be really bad. I really agree with him on 1 major point, You need to be more Pro Vegan rather then just Anti meat if we hope to make the movement bigger therefore lesson the suffering and killing of animals. i mean on the couple threads in the Heath section we had a couple members here saying that we evolved to eat meat and that plant protein is inferior to animal proteins and so on. Telling people to go to a inferior diet nutritionally isn't a good way at all to sell veganism. then you could say well what about the killing of animals? we'll you just got done saying we're made to eat them, so i hear alot of double speak and alot of anti meat but not pro veganism. I belive that Veganism is a Win win win all the way around the board and unless you approch it as such the movement will be slowed drastically Very few people exist on meat alone, we all consume fruits and vegetables in some form. so the argument is really only about the meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couture547 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 yeah I agree that people need to show more the benefits and hype the truth about veganism. Unfortunately to being positive the main reason many are vegan is because animals are terribly treated and on top commodified. If I had not seen animal slaughter I may not be vegan now. I was on the line eating 3 0z of fish and chicken then I saw earthlings and it all just made sense. Works together the Negative and the Positive. Yeah i agree, there has to be both. I think with the anti meat stuff we have as many people or pretty close to as many as we're going to have. Most people that truely care are all ready vegans, but then there's alot of people that like and care for animals but are feed these lies about protein and bone health and on and on. so to have Vegans saying the same stuff is very bad for the movement and we stunt it for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Couture547 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 I thought he was pretty fair, i thought it would be really bad. I really agree with him on 1 major point, You need to be more Pro Vegan rather then just Anti meat if we hope to make the movement bigger therefore lesson the suffering and killing of animals. i mean on the couple threads in the Heath section we had a couple members here saying that we evolved to eat meat and that plant protein is inferior to animal proteins and so on. Telling people to go to a inferior diet nutritionally isn't a good way at all to sell veganism. then you could say well what about the killing of animals? we'll you just got done saying we're made to eat them, so i hear alot of double speak and alot of anti meat but not pro veganism. I belive that Veganism is a Win win win all the way around the board and unless you approch it as such the movement will be slowed drastically Very few people exist on meat alone, we all consume fruits and vegetables in some form. so the argument is really only about the meat. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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