Bigbwii Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Anybody seen the movie 300 yet? It's great eye candy!!! The story line is weak but the the macho stuff and effects are great.... A lot of the guys on the fitness forums are trying to look like the guys on the movie! Here's how the actors trained for the movie! http://www.gymjones.com/knowledge.php?id=35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Haven't seen the movie yet. But interesting training story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endcruelty Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 uh ya..... theres already a thread for it btw viewtopic.php?t=6370 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Yeah, I didn't know how to move it to a different thread. I think I learned once but forgot. If there are fit and muscular bodies, I'd love to see it on the big screen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnie kray Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 uh ya..... theres already a thread for it btw viewtopic.php?t=6370actually this makes the third thread started about this movie. here is another one. must be a good movie to start 3 threads about it. i haven't seen it yet, but plan to soon. looks like awesome training too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 I just saw the movie and it was really lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneyvegan Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 I really enjoyed the movie. Sure, there is lots of CGI and it is a real war movie, but those bodies Phwoar, is about all I can say, they look amazing, plus they are running around in next to nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Storyline weak, fight scenes, freakin amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andgbr Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Storyline weak, fight scenes, freakin amazing. i just saw the movie.. aprox.20minutes ago.. and i agree with you.. storyline weak, great fighting scenes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveliberate Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 How is it lame Matt? I havent watched it but have heard critiques that it is only slightly concealed pro- oil wars propaganda with a fair amount of heterosexist undertones: - Greeks = "The West"/USA & uber-masculine, Muy Macho straight guys - Persians = "The East" Iraq, Iran, etc & much more effiminate men I do really like the "Molon Labe" idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Wow...people read into things way too much. It's not propoganda, it's a movie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveliberate Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Wow...people read into things way too much. It's not propoganda, it's a movie....I think it's a really good idea to "read into things" Zach - media, esp. mass media has a very strong effect on shaping how we view & relate to the world around us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I agree but really relating 300 to that is just pretty extreme... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveliberate Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 You may be right. I'll have a more informed opinion to share after I watch the movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 That might be a good idea..haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneyvegan Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I agree there were some definite Hetrosexist undertones, which have no basis in history at all.The Spartans were superior fighters, hetrosexual muscle men with beautiful women as their wives.Whilst the Athenians, were the weaker Boy loving (As they refer to them in the movie) cowards who run away. The fact is pederastic relationships were common place in all of Greece at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 the movie looks horrible and i hate movies that just have eye candy. but the training story was rad and i enjoyed reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 the movie looks horrible and i hate movies that just have eye candy.Hero, I agree, the movie does look horrible. And the fact that it is meant to be a titillating gore-fest (eye candy) is annoying. (The comic book version of history does a disservice to the cultures of West Asia, Central Asia, North Africa and Eastern Europe.) loveliberate, why do you have any desire to see this film if you know it's problematic? I agree in part with your earlier reservations. Given the world's current political environment, I think you would have to be living in a cave to not see 300 as having toubling implications for world affairs. According to a review in the Guardian, the film depicts Spartan King Leonidas I "as cynical about diplomatic niceties, slaughtering Persian emissaries against all convention." Well, if you read the news you'd know that, at least figuratively, this is how the U.S. State Department is handling Iran (present-day Persia) at this very moment. Here we have a movie that dipicts Persian as the dominate threat to the Western civilization at the same time Washington is calling Iran "the world's top sponsor of terrorist groups." Hmm? If it ain't propoganda, it's still completely insensitive to the current state of affairs in a way that the practical effect is the same as if it were propoganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Its just a movie..and every single historically based film can be referenced back to something that makes it seem problematic but trust me...this movie will not change the world for the worse or better. The chronicles of Narnia has tons of Biblical "historical" reference and I don't think it turned any athiest children into christians or made and christian children want to follow the footsteps of Jerry Falwell. Movies can simply be movies. Anyway at the time Persians were a threat to the west...the same way the west were a threat to Persians a few generations before...and that traded off a few times. Movies have been made for both sides and they will be made for a very long time. Is one better than that other??? Its just a coincidence that this is the situation we are in now. In the future people in the Middle East will be a real threat to us(I don't think they really are just yet)...and in terrible human fashion we'll be a threat back 500yrs later. And in 3000years if the planet is still around...movies will be made about that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharmakon Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 I agree there were some definite Hetrosexist undertones, which have no basis in history at all.The Spartans were superior fighters, hetrosexual muscle men with beautiful women as their wives.Whilst the Athenians, were the weaker Boy loving (As they refer to them in the movie) cowards who run away. The fact is pederastic relationships were common place in all of Greece at this time. I agree. I'm not an expert on ancient greek culture, but I did some research last year while writing on pedophilia and androphilia and found nothing to suggest pederasty was limited to any city-state. In fact, it's even possible it started in Sparta. Its just a movie..and every single historically based film can be referenced back to something that makes it seem problematic but trust me...this movie will not change the world for the worse or better. You're right, a single movie won't change the world. Yet, a single person being vegan doesn't change the world either. I like to think, however, individual acts either reinforce a culture, or challenge it. And the more prevalent a certain ideological undertone is, the greater political and cultural force it has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 I agree with you that things like movies and books may have an influence but movies based somewhat on history that are for entertainment(the writers know they weren't making this to tell the true story) don't do that. If this were something like Davinci Code thats a different story. Dan Brown is a dufus for claiming some of those things as fact(aka the killer albino monk) and morons believed it(I don't exactly believe in the bible either but the Davinci Code has more BS in it than an autobiography that Dick Cheney would wright). Also I think Americans take things differently. Japan is full of voilent movies and video games. The movies they make are far bloodier than the movies here and the video games are more vivid as well however they aren't terribly violent. The Philippines shows news coverage of war, famine and whatever terrible things are happening around the world...and they show it in its true fashion. They don't smudge out overly bloody bodies or anything like that and for the most part there is little violent crime in the Philippines other than in the Islamic southern region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 You're right, a single movie won't change the world. Yet, a single person being vegan doesn't change the world either. I like to think, however, individual acts either reinforce a culture, or challenge it. And the more prevalent a certain ideological undertone is, the greater political and cultural force it has.Excellent point, pharmakon. BTW, I like your signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveliberate Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Daniel, I want to watch it for the same reason I watched Bowling for Columbine - it's melodramatic propaganada BUT a lot of people are influenced by it so I want to know what I'm up against when I work to counter it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offense74 Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 Most of the world dislikes (or downright hates) the US (or really, the politics). Even so the US seems to be doing alright. Movies have been made, books have been written, leaders have threatened with war, nuclear warheads have been pointed, demonstrations have been made all over the world. There are no country on earth that is the subject of so much hate and propaganda as the US. And still it stands. The others fall, the more hate they spread about the US the more likely they are to fall. When they fall, the US is blamed.If your identity is formed by others to the degree that total censorship is needed to protect you from harm you're never going to find happiness and prosparity. Neither as a person nor as a country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andgbr Posted May 2, 2007 Share Posted May 2, 2007 the problem is that the one in the top is always the most visible one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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