GRardB Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I was checking on Exrx.net to see if there was a different between bench dips and regular dips in terms of the muscles they target. I noticed in the clip for regular dips, the guy is going down until his shoulders are almost touching the bars. They also write "Lower body until slight stretch is felt in shoulders." in the instructions. http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Triceps/WtTriDip.html I recently started doing Olympic Squats instead of Powerlifting Squats, so I'm open-minded about things like this. Is it bad for you to go past parallel, which is the stopping point for most people (as far as I've seen), or should it be avoided? Thanks,Gerard P.S: A far as my dips experience goes, I'm doing sets with 25lbs strapped on (going parallel), so I'm decent at them (I guess). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggieprincess Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I don't see any point in going as low as that guy is going. In fact, that website has a lot of great old-school exercises, but I have a problem with the form that is demonstrated in most of them. I don't think its any more effective at all to go past parallel on tricep dips and way to much stress on the shoulder joints... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen_Horse Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I don't think its any more effective at all to go past parallel on tricep dips and way to much stress on the shoulder joints...+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veganmomma Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I don't think its any more effective at all to go past parallel on tricep dips and way to much stress on the shoulder joints...+1I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamx Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I go as deep as I can (like the guy in the demonstation). No shoulder problems for me. No shoulder discomfort for me. It feels natural going through the whole range of motion. Currently using 45#'s for dips. Can't wait to build a dip station at the house! I say do what your comfortable with. If your dipping really deep and your shoulders feel like a pepper grinder, then i'd probably not go so deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsorlando Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Just because you don't have shoulder problems now doesn't mean that you might not later!The way I see it is as far as lifting goes, I am extremely careful not to go too deep, because it may lead to problems with joints years from now.I know most people probably don't agree, but it's working for me, and I never get injured from lifting because I'm very careful about rom, and try my best to have good form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamx Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Do you do half curls? 3/4 bench press? I don't see why people will do full ROM with certain exercises, yet other movements are the worse thing in the world. Full range of motion in every movement FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veganmomma Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Do you do half curls? 3/4 bench press? I don't see why people will do full ROM with certain exercises, yet other movements are the worse thing in the world. Full range of motion in every movement FTW.I agree although I don't think it's necessary to go below parallel on dips. Maybe I think that about dips because I'm not flexible enough to go any further than parellel. adamx if you don't feel any shoulder discomfort then keep doing what you're doing. I Full Squat and I've never felt any discomfort with my knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjs Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 It's sure as hell more functional if you can lift yourself from that lower height. Without any evidence to suggest that going past parallel is too far for the shoulders, might as well try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetus25 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Even though this is about benching I think it could apply to dips, also. http://www.chekinstitute.com/articles.cfm?select=26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I find going just below parallel seems best, for me. I go off the feel, and just past parallel I feel a good stretch on my chest, but any further and it just seems to stress my shoulders more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamx Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I find going just below parallel seems best, for me. I go off the feel, and just past parallel I feel a good stretch on my chest, but any further and it just seems to stress my shoulders more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damdaman Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Even though this is about benching I think it could apply to dips, also. http://www.chekinstitute.com/articles.cfm?select=26 Interesting. There have been a few people on here reporting serious and repeated shoulder problems. I wonder if this could be a factor in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRardB Posted September 27, 2008 Author Share Posted September 27, 2008 I tried going low on dips today, I felt like I was going to die. My left shoulder felt terrible afterwards. I don't think I'll be doing it below parallel... About that link, though. It's strange to me that it says going until the bar touches your chest is bad for your shoulders. It says Place your arm in the bench press position and allow your arm to lower to its passive end range of motion (Figure 2). This is the position where the arm naturally stops without being forced. I did that at the gym today, and my hands were basically where they are when I bench (and the bar touches my chest). Is it different for different people? Can some people go lower than others and not get affected? I dunno, but another thing is that when I do pushups, I go until my chest taps the ground, which is about the same ROM I believe. Pushups did wonders for my shoulder when it was injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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