blabbate Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 In honor of ailing Tom, 8 Swine Flu Myths discussed using actual science. http://www.newscientist.com/special/swine-flu-myths-that-could-endanger-your-life?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcina Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 About 90% of the deaths caused by swine flu happened in people who had underlying health conditions. Those who are immunocompromised are obviously going to have a harder time dealing with this illness. The scary thing is though, that young, healthy people are now dropping dead from this disease so if you get swine flu, seek medical treatment ASAP. Of course, make sure you don't infect others. Wear a mask, and notify the medical clinic/hospital beforehand so they can prepare for you to prevent spreading the illness to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blabbate Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share Posted October 28, 2009 About 90% of the deaths caused by swine flu happened in people who had underlying health conditions. Those who are immunocompromised are obviously going to have a harder time dealing with this illness. The scary thing is though, that young, healthy people are now dropping dead from this disease so if you get swine flu, seek medical treatment ASAP. Of course, make sure you don't infect others. Wear a mask, and notify the medical clinic/hospital beforehand so they can prepare for you to prevent spreading the illness to others.I think that's the most important thing I took away from the article. This flu can kill you in the prime of your life, regardless of what vitamins or fluids you're taking. It's extremely unlikely, but possible. So just be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan Joe Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I think it safe to say that pandemics are no myth, and the future will no doubt have some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beforewisdom Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I think that's the most important thing I took away from the article. This flu can kill you in the prime of your life, regardless of what vitamins or fluids you're taking. It's extremely unlikely, but possible. So just be careful. Isn't that how the bird flu ( H5N1? ) works? Healthier people tend to die as their immune systems are strong enough to respond so hard that their bodies can't take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blabbate Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share Posted October 29, 2009 I think that's the most important thing I took away from the article. This flu can kill you in the prime of your life, regardless of what vitamins or fluids you're taking. It's extremely unlikely, but possible. So just be careful.Isn't that how the bird flu ( H5N1? ) works? Healthier people tend to die as their immune systems are strong enough to respond so hard that their bodies can't take it?I haven't heard that before. All I've seen so far indicates that this virus just happens to fall into a gap in the immune profiles of people between 20 and 50. Those older than 50 have more likely been exposed to a variant close enough to this one to provide some degree of protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djshrew Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 So my question is, knowing how it is manufactured, how many of you plan on getting the vaccine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan Joe Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 1 Nay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsteriffic Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I am still not 100%, but I am starting to lean toward yes, just because I am in the final year of my Ph.D. and have a lot going on and can't afford to take time off if I get sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan Joe Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I am still not 100%, but I am starting to lean toward yes, just because I am in the final year of my Ph.D. and have a lot going on and can't afford to take time off if I get sick.Yeah, becoming 56 years old makes that decision so much easier for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djshrew Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 I'm very on edge about it. On the one hand i'm not so sure of a vaccine that was created so suddenly and is obviously not vegan. on the other hand, I go to a school that has already seen quite a few cases and 3 young healthy people have died in the area. I just feel like maybe it would be a good idea, my school is holding a clinic on tuesday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcina Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 5 people at my job have it and one woman just a couple years older than me in my area died last week. She had no underlying health problems. Yes, I'm going to get the vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blabbate Posted October 30, 2009 Author Share Posted October 30, 2009 So my question is, knowing how it is manufactured, how many of you plan on getting the vaccine?I am not, at least not yet. There are still shortages in my area, I work from home, I have no children, and nobody in my extended circle of friends has gotten sick. I think it would be wasted on me right now. If supply goes up enough, I'll probably get it. I have no worries about safety, and protecting myself and others is a higher ethical imperative for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcina Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 There are massive line-ups in my area. I want everyone who really NEEDS the vaccine (pregnant women, people with underlying health problems etc.) to get it before I do. If I get swine flu I have a better chance of surviving than they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobsteriffic Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Here they are just doing high priority people right now. Regular folks aren't able to get it for a few more weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djshrew Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Here, my school is only doing those with underlying health issues and any one 24 and under that is a student. Which would include me. (24) If I get it though I will most likely get it at the clinic my mom works at (she's a nurse) that way we would get it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan Joe Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I quess we should blame the shortage on Pres. Obama. In 2004 Hillary was on board with this blame game too. You've got to love it folks. Kerry Ad Says Flu Vaccine Shortage Is Typical of Bush's Policy Blunders By Howard KurtzWashington Post Staff WriterSunday, October 17, 2004; Page A06 Sen. John F. Kerry jumped on the flu-vaccine shortage yesterday with a new television ad blaming the situation on President Bush. In what may be the first presidential campaign commercial dealing with the flu, the Democratic nominee is trying to portray the vaccine squeeze as typical of the president's mishandling of health care. Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said that Kerry had opposed a legislative remedy and that his "incredible hypocrisy just demonstrates again his willingness to say whatever will benefit him politically." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im Your Man Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 The governments are worried that the virus will spread to a pandemic but now they are giving the virus to the whole population with the vaccine. Reuters press agency estimated that about 4,6 billion doses are ready, so we will have everybody infected. I love science... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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