New here, some questions, long read.

[EYS]

Hello! Ok I'm 15 years old, 5'7" and 188-190lbs. I've been really wanting to go vegan for a while now but the only problem is, I don't want it to hurt any potential I have to make it into the ifbb world of bodybuilding. (Yes I know it's a VERY unrealistic goal, but it's my dream and I want to try).

 

I am not working out so I can just have a better or fit body or whatever, I really want this to be a big part of my future, to become pro and see how far I can go in the ranks. I really want to be vegan but I really want to reach my highest potential to go far in this sport.

 

Would going away from meats really hold me back?

 

My diet right now is this.

 

Meal 1: 1 can tuna

1, 1/2 cup oats

8oz V8 fusion juice

1oz Almonds

 

Meal 2: 6-8oz Meat (chicken, steak, or fish)

1 cup oats

8oz orange juice

 

Meal 3: 1 scoop Protein shake

 

Meal 4: 6-8oz Meat

1, 1/2 cup oats

8oz orange juice

1oz Almonds

Green beans

 

Meal 5: 1 scoop protein shake

1 cup oats

8oz orange juice

 

Meal 6(PWO): 2 scoop protein shake

1 cup oats

16oz V8 fusion juice

 

Meal 7(right before bed): 6-8oz Meat

1 cup oats

1oz Almonds

 

And I would be switching it to this. Same exact thing, just different protein sources.

 

Meal 1: 3 serving hemp protein

1, 1/2 cup oats

8oz V8 fusion juice

1oz Almonds

 

Meal 2: 1 scoop soy protein

1 cup oats

8oz orange juice

 

Meal 3: 70/30 gemma/rice protein shake

 

Meal 4: 1 scoop soy protein

1, 1/2 cup oats

8oz orange juice

1oz Almonds

Green beans

 

Meal 5: 70/30 gemma/rice protein shake

1 cup oats

8oz orange juice

 

Meal 6(PWO): 70/30 gemma/rice protein shake

1 cup oats

16oz V8 fusion juice

 

Meal 7(right before bed): 1 scoop soy protein

1 cup oats

1oz Almonds

 

(I can/will switch some protein sources up, That is just an example pretty much.) Not sure if I should keep the hemp protein though, I've been reading that the amino acid ratio is bad form one of the threads here comparing hemp, soy, 70/30 rice and ect... I'm still trying to figure out which vegan protein sources are best and are as close as possible to meat/whey.

 

I also take a multi vitamin, creatine, glucosamine, and BCAA's. And would continue to do so on a vegan diet.

 

Btw, here is what I would be taking

 

Hemp: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nutiva/hempprotein.html

Soy: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/soy.html

70/30 gemma/rice from Trueprotein.

BCAA: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/branch.html

Vitamin: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ast/multi-pro.html

Creatine: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/hp/creatine.html

 

Thank you so much if you can help. Sorry if these questions don't belong in this section. I just figured I might as well place them in here since I'm new.

[vegimator]

Wow, you look like you're in great shape for 15. There are lots of people here that know more than me about this, but I would just say that the hemp that you're looking at is pretty low protein. There are more concentrated hemps out there like this 70% one -

http://www.amazon.com/Mantioba-Harvest-Soluble-Concentrate-16-Ounce/dp/B002CPVTH4

 

It's pretty expensive though. This one might be a good compromise (50% protein) http://www.amazon.com/Living-Harvest-Original-16-Ounce-Container/dp/B000E23VXW/ref=pd_sim_gro_3

 

I don't see why you can't give your plan a shot for a few months and see how your body responds.

[robert]

Welcome!

 

Great to have you here. I had a lot of the same concerns when I decided to become vegan at age 15. I also wanted to make it to the IFBB stage at one point in my life. I became vegan and added 75 pounds and did make some sort of name in the bodybuilding industry. I didn't make it to the IFBB, but my goals and dreams also changed over time and it no longer became my focus. But if it is for you, I have no doubt that with the right work ethic and determination, you can set yourself up for a great opportunity to get there.

 

I say it all the time, that if IFBB bodybuilders switched over to a complete plant-based diet and didn't have any change in their caloric intake and kept the same % of caloric intake for protein, fats and carbohydrates they would not see any adverse effects. In fact, they would likely have more energy, feel better and smile more

 

Go Vegan and keep the calories coming, keep your percentages the same for macro-nutrient consumption and keep training hard.

 

I've spent a lot of time around the IFBB. I'm friends with Jay Cutler, Jamie Eason and many others and I work with Bodybuilding.com at the Olympia and Arnold and other events. It is no longer a goal of mine. I enjoy competing in natural bodybuilding competitions, but I wish you the best in your journey to the IFBB stage!

 

Hope to see you around here.

 

We have a bunch of competitors here and more IFBB athletes will be popping in every now and then too.

 

All the best,

 

Robert

[EYS]

Wow, you look like you're in great shape for 15. There are lots of people here that know more than me about this, but I would just say that the hemp that you're looking at is pretty low protein. There are more concentrated hemps out there like this 70% one -

http://www.amazon.com/Mantioba-Harvest-Soluble-Concentrate-16-Ounce/dp/B002CPVTH4

 

It's pretty expensive though. This one might be a good compromise (50% protein) http://www.amazon.com/Living-Harvest-Original-16-Ounce-Container/dp/B000E23VXW/ref=pd_sim_gro_3

 

I don't see why you can't give your plan a shot for a few months and see how your body responds.

 

Thanks man! Yeah I noticed that too. Here's another 50% one. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nutiva/organichemp.html Basically the same as your 2nd link. But yeah that 70% is a bit pricey.

 

Welcome!

 

Great to have you here. I had a lot of the same concerns when I decided to become vegan at age 15. I also wanted to make it to the IFBB stage at one point in my life. I became vegan and added 75 pounds and did make some sort of name in the bodybuilding industry. I didn't make it to the IFBB, but my goals and dreams also changed over time and it no longer became my focus. But if it is for you, I have no doubt that with the right work ethic and determination, you can set yourself up for a great opportunity to get there.

 

I say it all the time, that if IFBB bodybuilders switched over to a complete plant-based diet and didn't have any change in their caloric intake and kept the same % of caloric intake for protein, fats and carbohydrates they would not see any adverse effects. In fact, they would likely have more energy, feel better and smile more

 

Go Vegan and keep the calories coming, keep your percentages the same for macro-nutrient consumption and keep training hard.

 

I've spent a lot of time around the IFBB. I'm friends with Jay Cutler, Jamie Eason and many others and I work with Bodybuilding.com at the Olympia and Arnold and other events. It is no longer a goal of mine. I enjoy competing in natural bodybuilding competitions, but I wish you the best in your journey to the IFBB stage!

 

Hope to see you around here.

 

We have a bunch of competitors here and more IFBB athletes will be popping in every now and then too.

 

All the best,

 

Robert

 

Thank you! Alright, great. Yeah I think I'll give it a shot and see how my body responds once I order and recieve everything.

 

Thanks again guys.

[vegimator]

One other thing I recently discovered. If you want to make your own energy bars or just as another shake protein, Trader Joe's has defatted peanut flour right now. I just bought three pounds of it for a little over $10.

 

1/4 cup contains:

110 cals

4g fat

8g carbs (4 of which is fiber)

16g protein

 

Also lots of potassium, phosphorous, folate, niacin and magnesium. Peanut protein doesn't have as good an amino acid profile as soy, gemma or rice protein, but it's not bad (just lacking in lysine) - http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4448/2

[EYS]

One other thing I recently discovered. If you want to make your own energy bars or just as another shake protein, Trader Joe's has defatted peanut flour right now. I just bought three pounds of it for a little over $10.

 

1/4 cup contains:

110 cals

4g fat

8g carbs (4 of which is fiber)

16g protein

 

Also lots of potassium, phosphorous, folate, niacin and magnesium. Peanut protein doesn't have as good an amino acid profile as soy, gemma or rice protein, but it's not bad (just lacking in lysine) - http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/legumes-and-legume-products/4448/2

 

Cool, thanks I'll check that out.

[Ted Trendy]

welcome

[robert]

You will do awesome!

 

Just stay focused, train hard and with a purpose and eat good clean food.

 

All the best to you!

[MrSwolehouse]

YO! I just signed up here and saw this. I'm in a similar boat as you... but you are definitely better than me hahaha. I just switched over and am still in a mass gaining phase so I'll let you know how it goes! Keep us up to date bro, lets get HYOOOOOOOGE!

 

-zac

[lobsteriffic]

Welcome! Best of luck with your goals - I have no doubt it is possible.

[beforewisdom]

I've heard that the world of competitive bodybuilding isn't open minded and the judges have their own prejudices as well. A friend of mine who was an amateur competitor found it better to not let people know she was on a vegan diet. While she got kudos from other people eating a vegan diet, she also got judged more harshly in competition and caught a lot of shit in that world.

 

Beyond that the challenges are the same.

 

Get enough calories, get enough protein and ignore anyone who tells you that you do not need to.

 

Ignore anyone who gives you unconventional advice and who does not have a body as big and as muscular as the one you want to get.

 

Good Luck!

[EYS]

welcome

 

Thanks man.

 

You will do awesome!

 

Just stay focused, train hard and with a purpose and eat good clean food.

 

All the best to you!

 

Thanks, and I'll do my best!

 

YO! I just signed up here and saw this. I'm in a similar boat as you... but you are definitely better than me hahaha. I just switched over and am still in a mass gaining phase so I'll let you know how it goes! Keep us up to date bro, lets get HYOOOOOOOGE!

 

-zac

 

Thanks haha. Cool man, and good luck!

 

Welcome! Best of luck with your goals - I have no doubt it is possible.

 

Thank you!

 

I've heard that the world of competitive bodybuilding isn't open minded and the judges have their own prejudices as well. A friend of mine who was an amateur competitor found it better to not let people know she was on a vegan diet. While she got kudos from other people eating a vegan diet, she also got judged more harshly in competition and caught a lot of shit in that world.

 

Beyond that the challenges are the same.

 

Get enough calories, get enough protein and ignore anyone who tells you that you do not need to.

 

Ignore anyone who gives you unconventional advice and who does not have a body as big and as muscular as the one you want to get.

 

Good Luck!

 

Wow, I've never heard of that. I'll keep that in mind, but if I ever do get succesfull in this sport while being a vegan, I'd definitely be open about it honestly. I wouldn't brag about it, but you know what I mean.

And thanks!