raw headaches

[Trev]

My wife and I decided to try the raw thing for a week and after 3 days, we've both got these weird headaches -- feel like the detox headaches I got from doing a cleanse once (pre-vegan). Mine is almost gone as I write this, but I was surprised by it. I thought my normal vegan diet was pretty good. Anyone else experience this, or know if this is common?

 

I'm not discouraged about raw food -- I've had tons of energy. Did a single set of 75 pushups last night after a 14 hr work day. And Suz cranked out 50 or 60, I lost count.

 

My raw food has consisted of a lot of fruit of many types, lots of green vegetables, and some nuts and seeds. Our goal wasn't to go completely raw, but significantly increase the amount of raw stuff in our diets. And, sorry in advance for not using the search function... just wanted to increase my post count.

[Daywalker]

I'm raw for two days now, and yesterday i had headache the whole day, which is strange because i NEVER have headaches.

That's not so bad, but i have zero energy, i feel weak as a kitten

I like to think my usual vegan diet is pretty healthy, i'm not sure if the weakness is due to the cleansing effects or if i simply lack calories.

[Bigbwii]

I'm raw for two days now, and yesterday i had headache the whole day, which is strange because i NEVER have headaches.

That's not so bad, but i have zero energy, i feel weak as a kitten

I like to think my usual vegan diet is pretty healthy, i'm not sure if the weakness is due to the cleansing effects or if i simply lack calories.

 

Hey Daywalker hope this helps!

 

DETOXIFICATION AND REGENERATION THROUGH DIET

 

By - Ede Koenig, Ph.D.,N.M.D. (F.A.C.N.)

 

 

 

 

 

The greatest misunderstanding and confusion in the field of nutrition is the failure to properly understand and interpret the symptoms and the changes which follow the implementation of a natural diet.

 

The highest quality of foods are the natural, raw foods, All the enzymes are found intact. The amino acids are in their finest form. The minerals, vitamins, carbohydrates, trace minerals, and "life force" are present. The life force, in turn, is capable of reproducing HEALTHY TISSUE. WHEN THE QUALITY OF FOOD COMING INTO THE BODY IS OF HIGHER QUALITY THAN THE TISSUES WHICH THE BODY IS MADE OF, THE BODY BEGINS TO DISCARD THE LOWER GRADE MATERIALS AND TISSUES TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE SUPERIOR MATERIALS WHICH IT USES TO MAKE NEW AND HEALTHIER TISSUE.

 

This is the plan of Nature. The body is very selective and always will be unless our interference is too great. Only then do we fail to recover and degenerate further into disease. The self curing nature of many conditions such as colds, fevers, cuts, swellings, injuries, pain, etc. furnishes endless examples of how the body tends toward health always unless we do something to stop the process.

 

WHAT ARE THE SYMPTOMS OR SIGNS WHICH BECOME EVIDENT WHEN WE FIRST BEGIN TO OMIT THE LOWER GRADE FOODS AND INSTEAD INTRODUCE SUPERIOR FOODS those which are more alive, more natural than we are accustomed to? When the use of the toxic stimulant such as coffee, tea, chocolate, or cocoa is suddenly stopped, HEADACHES ARE COMMON and a letdown occurs.

 

This is due to the discarding by the body of the toxins caffeine and theobromide which are removed from the tissues and transported through the bloodstream during its many bodily rounds. Before the noxious agents reach their final destination for elimination, these irritants register in our consciousness as pain in other words, headache.

 

The let down is due to the slower action of the heart the resting place which follows the stimulation of more rapid heart action forced upon the body by certain poisons called stimulants (that can be in the form of drug medications). The more RAPID HEARTBEAT (or pulse) PRODUCES A FEELING OF EXHILARATION, and the SLOWER action PRODUCES A DEPRESSED STATE OF MIND. USUALLY WITHIN THREE DAYS THE SYMPTOMS VANISH AND WE FEEL STRONGER due to the recuperation which follows.

 

To a lesser extent, THE SAME PROCESS OCCURS WHEN WE ABANDON LOWER QUALITY FOODS and replace them with better foods. Lower quality foods have undergone more preparation: spices, salt, and other ingredients have been added, which then tend to be more stimulating that less prepared and more natural foods.

 

Animal foods and products, such as meat, fowl, fish, cheese, milk, eggs, etc., are more stimulating than seeds, nuts, grains, and vegetable proteins. Consequently, the withdrawal of stimulation which follows the ABANDONMENT OF ANIMAL FOODS PRODUCES A SLOWER HEART ACTION A RESTING PLACE WHICH REGISTERS IN THE MIND AS RELAXATION OR A DECREASE IN ENERGY. THIS INITIAL LETDOWN LASTS ABOUT TEN DAYS OR SLIGHTLY LONGER AND IS FOLLOWED BY AN INCREASE OF STRENGTH, A FEELING OF DIMIniSHING STRESS, AND GREATER WELL BEING.

 

Now let us return to the symptoms which occur in the process of regeneration. The PERSON WHO STARTS A BETTER DIET, STAYS ON IT FOR THREE DAYS TO A WEEK AND THEN QUITS, WILL SAY, "OH! I FEEL BETTER ON THE OLD DIET THE NEW ONE MADE ME FEEL WEAK." HE FAILED BECAUSE HE DID NOT GIVE HIS BODY A CHANCE TO ADJUST and complete its first phase of action: recuperation. If he had waited a while longer, he would have begun to feel better than before he started.

 

DURING THIS INITIAL PHASE (LASTING ABOUT TEN DAYS ON THE AVERAGE TO SEVERAL WEEKS IN OTHERS) THE VITAL ENERGIES which are usually in the periphery or external part of the body, such as the muscles and skin, begin to move to the vital organs and start reconstruction.

This shunting of much of the power to the internal organs produces a FEELING OF LESS ENERGY IN THE MUSCLES, WHICH THE MIND INTERPRETS AS SOME WEAKNESS. Actually, the power is increased, but most of it is being used for rebuilding the mire important organs and less of it is available for muscular work. Any weakness which is felt here is not true weakness, but merely a redeploying of forces to the more important internal parts. HERE IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE PERSON TO STOP WASTING ENERGY, AND TO REST AND SLEEP MORE. THIS IS A CRUCIAL PHASE, and if the person resorts to stimulants of any kind, he will abort and defeat the regenerative intent of the body.

 

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT HE HAVE THE PATIENCE AND FAITH TO JUST WAIT IT OUT, and after a while he will get increasing strength which will exceed by far what he felt before he began the new program. SUCCESS IN THE RECOVERY OR IMPROVEMENT OF HEALTH HINGES UPON THE CORRECT UNDERSTANDING OF THE POINT REALIZING THAT THE BODY IS USING ITS MAIN ENERGIES IN MORE IMPORTANT INTERNAL WORK AND NOT WASTING IT IS EXTERNAL WORK INVOLVING MUSCLE MOVEMENTS.

 

BE WISE TAKE IT EASY HERE AND RELAX. Just coast in your work and social obligations until you are out of the woods.

 

As one continues on the improved diet and gradually raises the food quality, interesting symptoms begin to occur. The BODY BEGINS A PROCESS CALLED "RETRACTING". The cellular intelligence reasons something like this: OH, LOOK AT ALL THIS FINE MATERIAL COMING IN. HOW WONDERFUL; NOW WE HAVE A CHANCE TO GET RID OF THIS OLD GARBAGE AND BUILD A BEAUTIFUL NEW HOUSE. LET'S GET STARTED IMMEDIATELY.

 

"LET'S GET THIS EXCESS BILE OUT OF THE LIVER AND GALLBLADDER AND SEND IT TO THE INTESTINES FOR ELIMINATION. LET'S GET THIS SLUDGE MOVING OUT OF THE ARTERIES, VEINS, AND CAPILLARIES. THESE SMELLY, GASSY, BRAIN STUPEFYING MASSES HAVE BEEN HERE TOO LONG. OUT WITH THEM! THESE ARTHRITIC DEPOSITS IN THE JOINTS NEED CLEANING UP. LET'S GET THESE IRRITATING FOOD PRESERVATIVES, SLEEPING PILLS, ASPIRINS, AND DRUGS OUT OF THE WAY, ALONG WITH THESE OTHER MASSES OF FAT WHICH HAVE MADE LIFE SO BURDENSOME FOR US FOR SO LONG."

 

"LET'S GET GOING AND KEEP GOING UNTIL THE JOB IS DONE UNTIL WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE AND FROM THEN ON WE'LL KEEP IT A BEAUTIFUL, IDEAL MODEL HOUSE."

 

During the first phase (called catabolism), the accent is elimination, or a breaking down, of tissue. The body begins to clean house in short, to remove the garbage deposited in all the tissues everywhere.

 

During this period, the body removes the ashes from the furnace preparatory to getting a better fire,. Here the accentuation is on the removal of the gross and immediate body obstructions. Wastes are discarded more rapidly than new tissue is made from the new food. This becomes evident as weight loss. This persists for a while and is then followed by the second phase: stabilization.

 

Here the weight remains more or less stable. During this phase the amount of waste material being discarded daily is equal to the amount of tissue which is being formed and replaced by the newer, more vital food. This occurs after the excess of obstructing material in the tissue has been removed.

 

This stage persists for a while and is then followed by a third phase a build-up period (called anabolism), wherein weight starts to go up, even though the diet is lower in calories than it was before.

 

At this point, much or more of the interfering wastes have already been discarded; the tissues which have formed since the diet was raised in quality are more durable and do not break down easily. Also, new tissues are now being formed faster.

 

This is due to the improved assimilation made possible by the ceasing of wrong food combining., The body's need for the usual amounts of food decreases, and we are able to maintain our weight and increased energies with less food. Many are able to function very efficiently on two meals a day and eventually even on one meal a day.

 

As the body progressively increases in efficiency and decreases in tissue breakdown under exercise so do we gradually need less and less food to maintain life. The higher the percentage of raw foods one lives on, the slower the rate of tissue deterioration which one evolves into. A sick body requires a gradual, carefully worked out entry into this stage where one is able to live on a 100%, unfired raw diet.

 

Returning to the symptoms which occur on a superior nutritional program, people who have bad tendencies in the past to recurring skin rashes or eruptions will frequently tend to eliminate poisons and harmful drugs through the skin with new rashes or eruptions. If they go to the doctor who in unfamiliar with the aspect of nutrition, he will diagnose it as an allergy. They ask, "How come? I'm eating better now than I ever did before, and instead I'm getting worse."

 

They don't understand that the body is "retracting". The skin is becoming more alive and active. It's throwing out more poisons more rapidly now that the body is building more power, which is saved from those hard to digest meals which have been discontinued. These toxins being discarded are saving you from more serious disease, which will result if you keep them in your body too much longer possibly hepatitis, kidney disorders, blood disease, heart disease, arthritis, nerve degeneration, or even cancer depending on your heredity or structural weaknesses. BE HAPPY YOU'RE PAYING YOUR BILLS NOW IN AN EASY PAYMENT PLAN.

 

WITH SOME, COLDS WHICH HAVEN'T APPEARED FOR A LONG TIME MAY OCCUR, OR EVEN FEVERS. THIS IS NATURE'S WAY OF HOUSE CLEANING.

 

UNDERSTAND THAT THESE ACTIONS ARE CONSTRUCTIVE, EVEN THOUGH UNPLEASANT AT THE MOMENT. DON'T TRY TO STOP THESE SYMPTOMS BY THE USE OF CERTAIN DRUGS, OR EVEN MASSIVE DOES OF VITAMINS, WHICH WILL ACT AS DRUGS IN HUGE CONCENTRATIONS. THESE SYMPTOMS ARE PART OF A CURING PROCESS, SO DON'T TRY TO CURE A CURE.

 

These are not deficiency conditions or allergic manifestations, not if you're eating properly in quality, quantify, combination, and sequence. This is where experienced advice is of great value. Unfortunately, there are few books present today which give good guidance to the average reader. Try to find guidance through a doctor or teacher who has the requisite experience in this most confusing of all subjects: nutrition in relation to health and disease.

 

You may be eating perfectly in regard to quantity, quality, and observing all the correct rules, and still symptoms will occur.

 

THOSE WHO HAVE LIVED BETTER LIVES IN THE PAST, WHO HAVE EATEN BETTER FOODS AND WHO HAVE ABUSED THEIR BODIES LESS WITH OVEREATING, WILL HAVE REACTIONS RANGING FROM ALMOST NONE AT ALL OR VERY MILD TO SYMPTOMS WHICH MAY BE UNCOMFORTABLE OR ACUTE.

 

THOSE WHO HAVE LIVED WORSE LIVES AND POISONED THEMSELVES MORE WILL EXPERIENCE MORE SEVERE SYMPTOMS IF THEIR LIVER, KIDNEYS, OR OTHER IMPORTANT ELIMINATING ORGANS HAVE BEEN DAMAGED. WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN RENOVATED TO THE POINT OF FAIR WORKING ORDER, THEY WILL NO LONGER PRODUCE SYMPTOMS.

 

HEADACHES MAY OCCUR AT THE BEGINNING; FEVER AND/COLDS ALSO MAY APPEAR; THE SKIN MAY BREAK OUT; THERE MAY BE A SHORT INTERVAL OF BOWEL SLUGGISHNESS, OCCASIONAL DIARRHEA, FEELINGS OF TIREDNESS AND WEAKNESS, DISINCLINATION TO EXERCISE, NERVOUSNESS, IRRITABILITY, NEGATIVITY OR MENTAL DEPRESSION, FREQUENT URINATION, ETC. However, the great majority of people find their reactions tolerable and are encouraged to bear with them because of the many improvements which already occurred and are becoming more evident with each day. This acts as an inspirational force to them.

 

The symptoms will vary according to the material being discarded, the condition of the organs involved in the elimination, and the amount of energy you have available. The more you rest and sleep when the symptoms are present, the milder they are and the more quickly they are terminated.

 

BE HAPPY YOU ARE HAVING SYMPTOMS. REALIZE DEEPLY THAT YOUR BODY IS BECOMING YOUNGER AND HEALTHIER EVERY DAY BECAUSE YOU ARE THROWING OFF MORE AND MORE WASTES WHICH WOULD EVENTUALLY HAVE BROUGHT PAIN, DISEASE, AND MUCH SUFFERING. Those who have the worst symptoms reactions and follow through to their successful termination are thus avoiding some of the worst diseases which would eventually have developed had they continued the careless eating habits.

 

Don't expect to go on an ascending scale of quality; that improving your diet will make you far better and better each day until you reach perfection. The body is cyclical in nature (on a circadian rhythm), and health returns in a series of gradually diminishing cycles. For example, you start a better diet and for a while you feel much better. After some time, a symptom occurs; you may feel nauseous for a day and have diarrhea with a foul smelling stool. After a day, you feel even better and all goes find for a while. Then you suddenly develop a cold or chills, and lose your appetite. After about two or three days (assuming you don't take drugs or do anything else about it), you suddenly recover and feel better than you did for years.

 

Let us say this well being continues for two months, when you suddenly develop an itch or rash. You still don't take anything for it. This rash flares up, gets worse, and continues for ten days, and suddenly subsides. Immediately after this you find that your hepatitis is gone and your energy has increased more than ever before.

 

The rash became an outlet for the poisons in the liver which produced the hepatitis. This is how recovery occurs like the cycles in the Dow Jones Average at the beginning of a bull market.

 

You feel better, a reaction occurs, and you don't feel as well for a short time. You recover and go higher for a while. Then another reaction occurs, milder than the last. You recover and go even higher. And so it goes.

 

Each reaction milder than the first as the body becomes purer, each becoming shorter in duration and being followed by a longer and longer period of felling better than ever before, until you reach a level plateau of radiant health.

 

The first laws we must learn to obey are the laws of Nature. WE MUST LEARN TO EAT SIMPLE, PURE AND NATURAL FOODS, PROPERLY PREPARED AND COMBINED, AND OUR BODIES IN RETURN WILL CAST OFF ALL THE EVIL WE HAVE TAKEN IN DURING OUR LIVES. Nowhere is the principle of forgiveness of sins more manifest that herein our own bodies when we forsake our evil and destructive ways of eating (the defiling of the temple of the soul).

 

God (or Nature, if you please) gives us a whole new chance for a new glorious life. All repentance must begin here in the body through a purer diet and natural foods, Then, just have faith, sit back and watch what happens.

 

Before you own eyes, you will daily see signs that will cause you to wonder at this vast intelligence in operation that staggers the comprehension,. The mysteries of the body, the operations of Nature, the vital forces working in Nature, are far beyond what our mind are prepared to understand at present.

[flanders77]

@Alex: It is so funny to read your post! I am nearly 100% raw the last few days and I sit here in my office and have headaches. And I really do not remember when I had headaches last.

[Richard]

I did go raw for about 10 days last year, I didn't feel any side effects. That clearly means that I am much better than all of you at life in general

[SeaSiren]

I did go raw for about 10 days last year, I didn't feel any side effects. That clearly means that I am much better than all of you at life in general

Was there ever any doubt?

[Daywalker]

Bigbwii, thanks.

 

I know these theories, but i don't buy them.

 

First, i never used drugs in my life - no alcohol, no cigarettes,nothing. Very little medicine over the years compared to most people.

I'm not fat, my diet is healthy, no preservatives etc.

What is there to "get rid of"?

 

Plus, i've been raw for a long time, i felt like shit the whole time. I was suffering severe side effects, and endured only because i wanted to believe it was detoxification.

 

I also don't like the language of this guy, like most raw foodists he uses colourful words to run down cooked food.

 

I still think raw food is healthy, but i think a wholesome vegan diet is also healthy, and i don't want to be 100% raw all the time. Too much stress, and too expensive

[JW]

Good info Bigbwii!!!!

 

I've had headaches too

I'm not 100% Raw but I seem to go through periods where I go 100% for a few weeks. I will usually get a dull headache and feelings of lethargy

 

I've also had headaches from eliminating sugars from my diet.

[Richard]

Plus, i've been raw for a long time, i felt like shit the whole time. I was suffering severe side effects, and endured only because i wanted to believe it was detoxification.

How long was it for?

[Bigbwii]

Bigbwii, thanks.

 

I know these theories, but i don't buy them.

 

First, i never used drugs in my life - no alcohol, no cigarettes,nothing. Very little medicine over the years compared to most people.

I'm not fat, my diet is healthy, no preservatives etc.

What is there to "get rid of"?

 

Plus, i've been raw for a long time, i felt like shit the whole time. I was suffering severe side effects, and endured only because i wanted to believe it was detoxification.

 

I also don't like the language of this guy, like most raw foodists he uses colourful words to run down cooked food.

 

I still think raw food is healthy, but i think a wholesome vegan diet is also healthy, and i don't want to be 100% raw all the time. Too much stress, and too expensive

 

Man have you not read my experience?

 

I went through hell!!! and it took me years before I felt normal again....

 

I ate cooked food for the best part of my life so I'm not gonna get cleaned up overnight....going raw is a total body overhaul but I didn't know that at the time!

 

I could of been one of those people that say going raw ruined my life but I kept on going and weathered the storm....now I have no excuses to quit and I'm in the best shape of my life and feeling better than I've ever felt....but it took me a lot of time and patients to get there!!!!

 

Juss do what you think is right....

 

hope that helped....

[Trev]

Thanks for the info Bigbwii...

 

I'm glad to see the headaches are common. I wasn't planning on committing to 100% raw, but after a few days, I'm definitely feeling good. After a taste of the raw life, I think I'll make a real effort to eat more raw than not. Maybe raw all week at work (where the cooked food is heinous anyway) -- Suz has been making me amazing salads to take, and there's an abundance of organic fruit at work usually. Then I'll relax a bit on the weekends, have a steak - just kidding - have something cooked, just not worry about it so much. It's not like I eat crap anymore.

 

But, man, I did a lot of pushups after eating fruit all day long...

[Daywalker]

Man have you not read my experience?

 

I went through hell!!! and it took me years before I felt normal again....

 

I ate cooked food for the best part of my life so I'm not gonna get cleaned up overnight....going raw is a total body overhaul but I didn't know that at the time!

 

I could of been one of those people that say going raw ruined my life but I kept on going and weathered the storm....now I have no excuses to quit and I'm in the best shape of my life and feeling better than I've ever felt....but it took me a lot of time and patients to get there!!!!

 

Juss do what you think is right....

 

hope that helped....

Thanks man, and yeah, i've read it.

 

I'll give you my reasons why i won't go fully raw now:

- I didn't just feel bad - i was sick. I had anaemia, B12 deficiency, i got hematoma VERY easily, i lost 50lbs bodyweight (i was lean before), i had dental plaque i couldn't brush off, barely scratch off. I kept going for it was "the detox". I stopped when one day my nose started bleeding while i was sitting at the table - i NEVER had nose bleeding before or after.

- Most people i know feel great when they go raw, i don't. I feel extremely weak and tired all the time. I can't believe i'm more polluted than those people.

- I don't want to lose 50lbs again, nor do i want to be as weak as i was back then. I don't want to sound vain, but quite a few vegans in Germany know me and use me as an example for healthy vegans. I can't be a bodybuilder on raw food. When i was raw and lost allmy muscles, my friends and everyone in the gym attributed it to the vegan diet and convinced me to eat meat again. I (as every vegan) am a living example for veganism, therefore i can't afford to walk around like a zombie for two years.

 

 

Maybe i'll go fully raw laterin my life, when i'm not tryingto be a competitive athlete anymore, or feel unhealthy. But for now, a wholesome vegan diet is my way.

 

Love and peaceman,

Daywalker

[tofuPUNK]

I tried going raw a couple weeks before thanksgiving. I only lasted a day and a half. I bought Allisa Cohens book and was captivated by the testimonials and the information that she gives in her book. I have suffered from bad allergies for the last few years and was hopeful that this might be the cure I was looking for. I followed her diet to the letter, and began having symptons after a half day on the diet. I had a terrible headache, I was jittery, had mood swings, no energy, my eyes felt dry and itchy. I was supposed to have a German test the next day and ended up calling the teacher to see if I could take a makeup exam (tomorrow). The next day, I still felt horrible, plus the food I had prepared for lunch (leftovers from the previous day) didn't look appetizing to me (I didn't want to look at another nut, as all of her recipies had a lot of nuts in them). I also felt like I was hungry all the time, even though I was eating like every 2 hours. Finally I couldn't take the headache anymore and broke down and had a cup of coffee. Then went out to lunch and had a salad and vegetable soup. 1/2 hour later my headache went away.

 

Maybe I approached this diet the wrong way, or maybe I picked the wrong time to go on it (work, school). I might try this diet again after the holidays, but I just did not feel functional while on the diet. I was also surprised to be going through "detox" so fast, as I would expect symptoms to begin several days after beginning the diet and not several hours.

 

Maybe JJ and EatRaw can give us some feedback on their journey into the Raw World in terms of withdrawal symptoms and detox.

[Trev]

tofuPUNK, a day and a half isn't long enough to get over those symptoms. Maybe try a more gradual transition. I started with a couple of raw days in a week, but that quickly turned into more. I now eat about 80% raw, kind of all the time, but especially before work outs. The headaches are long gone, and I find myself always craving fresh fruit and raw vegetables instead of my old cravings which were whole grain bread and peanutbutter!

 

I'm no raw expert, as I'm very new to it also, so hopefully some of the raw pros while chime in here. Read Big Bwii's posts above too. He knows a thing or two about adjusting to raw!

[Zack]

"These toxins being discarded are saving you from more serious disease, which will result if you keep them in your body too much longer possibly hepatitis, kidney disorders, blood disease, heart disease, arthritis, nerve degeneration, or even cancer depending on your heredity or structural weaknesses."

 

Anyone care to elaborate on this? I think I may have had hepatitis C since birth and i'm wondering what I can do short of taking a bunch of drugs from the doctor.

[tofuPUNK]

I know I should have stuck with the diet longer, but I had too much going on at the time to stay on the diet (feeling the way I did). Thats why I might wait until after the holidays (where I dont have school to worry about) and try again. Allisa Cohen recommends in her book to go 100% raw to get the full effect, and that anything less wont give you the full benefits. However, I might just gradually increase up to 100% as I have a lot of food in the house that I don't want to throw away just because its not raw.

[EatRaw]

 

Maybe JJ and EatRaw can give us some feedback on their journey into the Raw World in terms of withdrawal symptoms and detox.

 

We were vegan for 1 year before we started eating raw foods. During that year, we did not consume any medications, caffeine or processed foods. The first couple days on a vegan diet, we noticed we had headaches and felt tired. We did not feel any major symptoms when we went raw, except for being tired on occasion. I would give it some more time and then evaluate how you feel.

 

 

Allisa Cohen recommends in her book to go 100% raw to get the full effect, and that anything less wont give you the full benefits. However, I might just gradually increase up to 100% as I have a lot of food in the house that I don't want to throw away just because its not raw.

 

Some people say 100% is the best and others recommend the gradual transition. Do whatever is most comfortable for you. Either way, you will be eating more fruits and veggies and that is definitely a good thing.

[ChaserHUN]

I went raw too, just oats weren't raw in my diet, I've cut it out from my breakfast, I had a lot of cocoa on it too, can this give me headaches too?

[Im Your Man]

My wife and I decided to try the raw thing for a week and after 3 days, we've both got these weird headaches -- feel like the detox headaches I got from doing a cleanse once (pre-vegan). Mine is almost gone as I write this, but I was surprised by it. I thought my normal vegan diet was pretty good. Anyone else experience this, or know if this is common?

 

I'm not discouraged about raw food -- I've had tons of energy. Did a single set of 75 pushups last night after a 14 hr work day. And Suz cranked out 50 or 60, I lost count.

 

 

I'm glad I found your post, Trev.

I'm began to include more raw foods (espescially fruits) since a few weeks, but espescially in the last few days and I have a headaches almost constantly! Nothing very painful. There's no other explanation than the detox thing because I almost never have headaches. Also I have many other of the typical symptoms like frequent urinations.

 

And more energy too, as long as the calorie intake is not too low. I was laughing when reading what you wrote about your push-ups, because I saw those ridiculous BBC videos, watch are veggies weaker than meat eaters?, you'll see an olympic (I think?) athlete that eats meat and he's all proud of his set of 55 push-ups, then do the test of being vegan and does only 50 and he says: "oh I'm so happy it's the proof that I'm stronger with meat".

But we're vegans, and on raw diet you can do 75 push-ups, I can do 65.

[ChaserHUN]

lol, what stupid test were theese

Today morning I ate the whole bowl of salad, and felt hungry and headache all day, before I only eaten maybe the half of the salad, and ate a cup of oatmeal with cocoa and felt full for at least 3 hours, if I put more potatoes to the salad can that solve the problem?

[VeganDude]

There's no other explanation than the detox thing

There is no detox thing.. Our organs do that and u cannot speed up that proces. Also they are really good at it!

[Im Your Man]

lol, what stupid test were theese

Today morning I ate the whole bowl of salad, and felt hungry and headache all day, before I only eaten maybe the half of the salad, and ate a cup of oatmeal with cocoa and felt full for at least 3 hours, if I put more potatoes to the salad can that solve the problem?

 

Don't try to do mathematics with food, like adding a bit of potatoes and removing some oatmeal and eating half of a salad...

The basic is : if there's at least 75% raw, it allows the body and organs to function more like they're supposed to, which is the ability to clean and recover day after day.

[ChaserHUN]

lol, what stupid test were theese

Today morning I ate the whole bowl of salad, and felt hungry and headache all day, before I only eaten maybe the half of the salad, and ate a cup of oatmeal with cocoa and felt full for at least 3 hours, if I put more potatoes to the salad can that solve the problem?

 

Don't try to do mathematics with food, like adding a bit of potatoes and removing some oatmeal and eating half of a salad...

The basic is : if there's at least 75% raw, it allows the body and organs to function more like they're supposed to, which is the ability to clean and recover day after day.

maybe I'm just craving after the taste of oatmeal, craving are really bad, it makes you feel hungry when your stomach is full

[Marcina]

I eat about 75% raw right now. It's my perfect medium! I really need to cut out the gluten and soy though.. Or at least reduce soy. I'm pretty good at not eating gluten most of the time but once in awhile I will really want a sandwich or something and have a piece.. Then the next morning I get the abdominal cramps.

[ChaserHUN]

I'm craving cocoa now, would be cool to get raw cocoa beens here, this 100% raw thing is harder than I thought I've switched to vegan so easily, but now it's hard, my body craves a lot of things because of the taste