New World Vegan Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I once read that melons are genetically modified. The non-specifics of that has really put a crimp in my eating style. Organic melons aren't easy to get, and they're expensive. They're probably not modifying all types of melons. Does anyone know the specific types? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I think you can never really tell. Lots of things(probably most) are modified and you can't tell because they are trying to get tiny advantages that may not be visual. You'd have to go to the farm and even they may not even know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belleadonna Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I know that the seedless ones are GMO. If it has a label on it, look for these numbers. Conventionally grown fruits and vegetables have 4 digit numbers, and generally start with a 3 or a 4; organically grown fruits and vegetables have 5 digits and start with a 9; genetically modified produce also have 5 digits and begin with an 8. For example, the PLU for a conventionally grown banana is 4011; an organic banana is coded 94011; and a genetically modified banana is 84011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I know that the seedless ones are GMO. If it has a label on it, look for these numbers. Conventionally grown fruits and vegetables have 4 digit numbers, and generally start with a 3 or a 4; organically grown fruits and vegetables have 5 digits and start with a 9; genetically modified produce also have 5 digits and begin with an 8. For example, the PLU for a conventionally grown banana is 4011; an organic banana is coded 94011; and a genetically modified banana is 84011. Is that always the case? That's interesing. I'm assuming they're the same numbers in Canada. I know bananas are 4011 here. I'm going to check that when I'm at the grocery store tomorrow. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I find it hard to believe the 4011 banana is conventionally grown. Its the most popular produce object there is and I doubt its not modified. Even though they say its not I simply don't believe it. When money is in the way I think people are more than willing to lie about things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belleadonna Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I guess that we are at their mercy veganpotter. They are labeled and that is what they tell us that the numbers mean. Our government lie?? What a shocker that would be!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offense74 Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 I know that the seedless ones are GMO. If it has a label on it, look for these numbers. Conventionally grown fruits and vegetables have 4 digit numbers, and generally start with a 3 or a 4; organically grown fruits and vegetables have 5 digits and start with a 9; genetically modified produce also have 5 digits and begin with an 8. For example, the PLU for a conventionally grown banana is 4011; an organic banana is coded 94011; and a genetically modified banana is 84011. Is that always the case? That's interesing. I'm assuming they're the same numbers in Canada. I know bananas are 4011 here. I'm going to check that when I'm at the grocery store tomorrow. Thanks!GMO is illegal in the EU and we have both seedless grapes and watermelon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Is it illegal to grow or illegal to sell, import and grow??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 i come across melons and other fruits like watermelon that are seedless. this always puzzles me and i avoid them.how can a fruit be seedless? doesnt that go against the definition of what a fruit is?i wish people would stop tampering with food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Really seedless watermelons aren't seedless. They have seeds that don't have shells on them. This renders them unable to germinate new melons but they are still seeds. Grapes are a bit different though. They have small sacks in them that would be where a seed belongs...its hard to see them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 (edited) Personally, I don't see a problem with most gmo, I guess it depends on what it is. Nature does it too, but thinks like adding sugar and sweetening things I'm not such a fan of, but I do like seedless if that was the only thing they did. Edited June 29, 2007 by Zack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odidnetne Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Seedless watermelons are the only seedless things I'll really eat (unless they don't have seeded grapes), some of the other things like seedless oranges seem pointless to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offense74 Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Is it illegal to grow or illegal to sell, import and grow???I think it's illegal to use in any way for human consumption. I think the US lobby were over here with their dollars and sold GMO corn for our cows to eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregonisaac Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 I thought seedless was created by cross breeding, not genetic modifications, which creates a sterile offspring like a mule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Personally I think hybrids are pretty much the same thing. Its just a slower process with a smaller number of alterations that can be made. Unless its accidental and done in nature its not all that natural. Its like people having kids together just to have a smart child or an athlete...you can do it from a sperm bank and call in very unnatural or you can do it the old way. The good are still the same but the process is only a tiny bit different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New World Vegan Posted June 29, 2007 Author Share Posted June 29, 2007 I've never heard of GMO bananas. I can never find a good list, or how to avoid GMO's on the net. Does anyone know a good site? So I went shopping yesterday without much hope for non-GMO melon, and I found the un-amaginable!: At a produce stand - Org Watermelon for........29 cents a lb.!!! That's cheaper than ANY produce I've seen. The average for produce here is $1 lb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 I'm actually quite confused on the GMO thing...same goes for meat even though I'll never buy it. There are non-GMO and non-Hormone fed cows that are sold as organic to the public but the chances that they are from an organic bloodline is nil. I wonder if its the same with organic produce. Maybe some in non-GMO now but what about the seeds they came from or the seeds those came from. Also much depends on the soil. Soil that has been abused still leaves significant contaminants for years(decades and possibly even centuries in the future) on end even if a new farmer farms it ethically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oregonisaac Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Personally I think hybrids are pretty much the same thing. Its just a slower process with a smaller number of alterations that can be made. Unless its accidental and done in nature its not all that natural. Its like people having kids together just to have a smart child or an athlete...you can do it from a sperm bank and call in very unnatural or you can do it the old way. The good are still the same but the process is only a tiny bit different. Actually I think it is more like taking lumberjacks and cross breaking them with chimpanzees over and over again until you get the "perfect" offspring that can climb trees and still take orders to run a chainsaw then cloning that sterile freak over and over until you have an army of chimp tree destroyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Actually I'm a hybrid too but I was hybridized to make the perfect oral garbage disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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