Odidnetne

You work at Rutgers?

Yup

Awesome, I know a bunch of people at the New Brunswick Campus. I met a forum member at the NB campus last May.

Do you still have a Vega T-Shirt?

I work at a university so I have free access to the gyms here. There's at least five gyms that have free weights but I only go to two of them due to location (I work near one, my workout buddy works near another, so we alternate).

 

The one by me has a single squat rack which sucks if it's even mildly busy. I usually end up going in the early afternoon. After 4pm or so the gym is absolutely nuts.

 

The gyms are ok. I like that there's a rock wall at one of the other gyms, which I go to once a week. There's also a variety of cardio equipment at my gym: treadmills, ellipticals, stairmasters, stairstepers, bikes, and rowing machines. I haven't been a member of a commercial gym (though I've been inside a few) so I don't know what to compare it to. I doubt I'd pay much for this type of gym though, it just gets too busy to effectively do anything at certain times of the day.

You work at Rutgers?

"No meat" = No carne

"No milk" = No leeche (not sure if that's the correct spelling, but it's pronounced "lay-cha")

"No eggs" = No huevos

"No chicken" = No pollo

"No fish" = No pescado

That's really cool. My science teacher in 8th grade said that if the sun was a tennis ball, we'd be a couple of grains of salt, and the grains of salt would be a couple miles down the road.

Hey, welcome to the forums.

Welcome to the forums.

My last beer was New Year's eve 1999/New Year's day 2000.

You should schedule these things around your work...its not a party if one of the hosts isn't around.

Michelle does the scheduling, but as always with every other job I've had, I work a LOT.

Nice pics...I'm missing the vegan potluck thing...haven't been to one since VV07

I barely get to go too. Stupid job.

When I first starting lifting weights I didn't use any protein powders for months (I tried some vega that Rob sent me once, that was about it), and I was able to put on a lot of weight really quickly. It's about making really good food choices.

I've been growing mine for the past 4 months, but Rob, did you ever get a minor trim or get your hair layered or anything like that? My hair is getting far too big and I need to do something to take care of the total volume.

"There's a real danger when we allow a very small minority of activists to dictate procedures that should be used to raise animals for food."

 

You've got to be kidding me, right? Thanks to our ridiculously large gap between the rich and poor in the states, it's a very small minority of people who are dictating how animals are raised for food right now.

 

Actually I think its the poor/average majority dictating how animals are raised for food. Its average Joe that wants to pay $1 per lb for chicken...the rich man only listens because thats what keeps customers coming. When you look at those who do buy more expensive organic meat I think you'd find they are mostly all in the upper middle class or higher. I know very few average income folks that buy organic anything outside of environmentalists. Everyone else wants stuff cheap. As for our income gap I'd say its relatively small once you take out the super duper rich that only makes up less than 0.2% of the population. Remove them and we're pretty much just like most other modern nations. Poor countries are much worse...where the average person is really poor...the poor is only a little more poor and the rich is like the average American...and the really rich is of course really rich.

Anyhow this is part of the reason why I support most of what PETA does. We are the minority and the general public thinks we're stronger than our numbers would suggest. We are much smaller of a minority than even those under the poverty line, any race in America...but we even have larger numbers than the very rich...just not quite as much influence yet. But extremely vocal groups that scare the rich make our numbers seem larger and actually make our numbers larger. I'm happy things like this are being covered by the news and I hope it keeps happening.

It's the average/poor dictating that only in the sense that it's an illusion that they have a say in how food gets produced. Most people don't even have a clue of what a factory farm looks like, or reasons as to why it's bad for everything. The only "choice" they're showing is that they want "cheap meat", and let the rich people take care of it from there, which is when I think things start to go bad, when you just let other people take care of everything for you.

Why not just reply that back to them? Just say "Oh, that's new, I've never heard that one before." and walk away.

 

Well... that implies that I'd have to be a member of said forum (which wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell in happening).

 

Why would i join a forum full of carnist bodybuilders when I've got this one here?

 

It still does make my head swim, though, when I read comments like that.

I was replying to Veggie Princess about the people at her old gym, I wouldn't suggest joining a forum to say something like that.

I don't think it's even worth that much focus or worry if you're trying to put on muscle. You're going to probably be eating the foods people suggest to combine anyway if you're trying to put on weight (rice & beans, oats, soy products, hemp products), which are "high quality sources of protein" to begin with. As long as you're eating the heavier foods which most recommend to put on the weight in the first place, you're doing all right.

What really kills me about that site is the sheer number of people who wrote posts like

 

"I'm eating my second steak while reading this thread"

 

or:

 

"MMMM MEAT... I LOVE MEAT.... MMMM MORE FOR ME" and that sort of nauseating stuff.

 

And people wonder why bodybuilderss get a reputation for cro-magnon tendencies. Ugh.

 

As Sea Siren said... I think some of us are just used to those comments.

 

At the last gym I trained at, people teasing me about their big fat juicy steak was a daily thing.

 

I just don't ever feel a need to say anything back because my time is better suited conversing with people who have somewhat of an interest in the subject. I just think in my head, "my god, can't they get some new material".

Why not just reply that back to them? Just say "Oh, that's new, I've never heard that one before." and walk away.

There might be a new gym opening within walking distance, and if it has what I need, I'll gladly drop my current 5 mile away gym for this new one. I'm not super attached to a place unless it has some kind of really good incentive for me to stay (price, distance, equipment).

"There's a real danger when we allow a very small minority of activists to dictate procedures that should be used to raise animals for food."

You've got to be kidding me, right? Thanks to our ridiculously large gap between the rich and poor in the states, it's a very small minority of people who are dictating how animals are raised for food right now.

I want to try those sometime!

I'll bring mine to Oregon this summer.

Welcome to the forums.

Hey. I lived up in that area (working and hanging around in Sussex and Morris counties) until about 4 months ago, but welcome to the forums.

Why did they have to "re" open?

I liked it so much that I'm going to mail the link to my mother.

I would just use some soymilk instead of rice milk and water, I think that might've helped. Fruit smoothies are the best though.

I could always use some stuff of some kind too, even if you have to mail something I could send you a check for shipping.