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1-2g per lb. I take in 200-250g ED of protein along with tons of food and LOTS of water. (at 185-190lbs and growing, 5'7", low bf% "13%ish" ) I see alot preach "your crazy you don't need that, you only need 50-70g" well i have yet to meet or see a pic of one of these peeps that ACUALLY look like a bodybuilder, and most of the time they dont even look like they eat at all. so i stand by what iv seen for others and know for my self. if you take less then 1-2 (opt 1.5g) of protein per lb. your short changing your self in gains. I mean a few protein shakes and a few penutbutter sandwiches ED, you can get it in. but dont forget your good fats and veggies/carbs!

o yah and i order 25-50lb at a time every 3-5months for years now. about all i use is trueprotein. you can also ask them to split up the protien into a few diffrent prem flaves in comments box at end of order so you can try a few of them and see what you like the most.

i found it very good. straberry, duch choc fugd,coconutcream, choc chip cookie dough. there ALL great BUT........... the gemma protein tastes like crap in my opinion. that might be why it dont work with it? i hate it i cant stomich it. maybe it would work with the rice protein? i unno i found them good. the peaches and cream i didnt like to much thow.

Ok, good stuff. I'll give you an example of a typical day. Morning: Peanut butter and blueberry jelly sandwichs 1 pear 8oz of The Ultimate Meal (w/banana and half an apple) Midday snack: Organic Foodbar or Cliff Bar almonds/dry cranberries Lunch: Baby Spinach & Avocado salad with tomatoes. short grain brown rice, black beans with somoe multi grain tortillas and some grilled tofu or tempeh. I work out around 5 or 6 right after that: brown rice protein shake with mangoes and apples a soy cheese quesadilla with some sauteed broccoli, mushrooms over some quinoa or brown rice. WOW thats IT?!? x that by 2-4x maybe you will gain. also read up on CALORIE DENSE foods. blend up your protien powder (50-60g) with soy or rice milk,1banana,handfull frozen berrys, AND 4tbs of penut butter.and blend just the penutbutter is about 400cals. have 2 of thos a day added to your diet and snack on wom walnuts as a snack before bed and you should be ok to go. also bananas are cheap and so is penutbutter. I LOVE penutbutter beacuse its VERY calorie dense and cheap, has protein and has alot of good fats. one of these smoothies probily has the same amount of calories and protien you are taking in the WHOLE day. vegan/vegitarian isnt your issue diet is. give it a go with higher cals maybe 2 smoothing a day like i posted above. also on a working out note; i only work out 3-4times a week for no more then a 1hr per workout and only work out 1-2body parts per work out and dont hit that bodypart agein till the next week to give it time to heal and grow. if your working out your body parts over and over each day your nto going to go anywhere. also look up "muscle confusion" as doing the same workout over and over and also not upping the lbs your using will also make you go nowhere. hope that helps you a bit.

Thanks Porkchop! If Customs comes, I'll say...talk to the Porkchop! the VEGITARIAN PORKCHOP!! lol

In USA its legal. in canada you can import but are not supossed to sell it."thow they dont really care but may issue warnnings to your store" Astralia its only by SCRIPT from Doc now. it vary's from country to country. you CAN order it to usa. the make more of a note about it to canada beacuse alot dont know and/or are confused about if your allowed to or not due to blerry laws ect.that have been swirled around a few times in the last 8 or so yrs. konakavafarm is great place to get it, but even if you dont get it from them MAKE SURE WHAT EVER WHERE EVER you get it, its ONLY from the ROOT of the plant. the leaves/stems have some alkaloids that can be hard on liver.the root does not.

MAN i had to share this with you guys! this KAVA KAVA root has helped me so much and its only been a week. less axiety and I sleep soo much better!! if any of you guys has issues sleeping or want somthing to mellow out you can make a tea, chew it or put it in a smoothy. 0.5-1.5g, 1-3 times a day is how i use it. (norm is 0.5 per cup of warm "not hot" tea) if just for sleep take 1-1.5g 1 hr before bed. man i feel good. and it dosnt make you feel slow/high or anything like that. heres where i got it, its only 5$ shipping thank god. link: http://www.konakavafarm.com/ any one els here use kava kava?? its not illegal to import in canada just to sell out of a store.. ps. the root isnot bad for you! the leaves and stems are hard on liver and some companys where using whole herb to meet demands and some poeple got sick/stressed livers. so FDA/canada put a stop sale order on it.

I saw this and thought id post it up and see what you guys thought about this? http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=7544754 To me I feel hey if you’re not using the animals to make em and are using them responsibly: to each there own if that’s what you feel helps you and is what you want to do. To me using them responsibly is: you’re healthy and monitoring your health while on them and if anything bad comes up stopping them. NOT using mega doses and figuring mehh if I die I die. To me that’s just stupid. Also I feel if the rule in a sport like: baseball for eg. Is NO steroids then guessing what NO STEROID'S!! or then you ARE cheating PERIOD! I don’t feel it’s cheating if you on your own, BBing or on level playing grounds where it’s not a rule not to and are willing to use them. Some are willing to do more then others and in my OP: there’s nothing wrong with that. Saw the clip thought id post it along with me 0.2cent's

i take 800iu in summer and 2000iu in winter, vitaminD (D3) every day that along with 500mcg B12 and a multiV, its a MUST when vegetarian or vegan. sadly its not all gonna come from apples,nuts,carrots ect. so i have to suck it up and take my supps. i try to stay as animale free as i can but am not going to get sick or die from it. im not 100% vegan but am close to it. not nuff to call myself one but a vegitarian yes. i try to get as much out of food as i can. but the depression in winter used to be almost borderline sucidal before i started getting into bodybuilding and taking my vitamins. now its not so bad but i still HATE IT! :'-( dammit doc's tell you, you go in the sun you gonna die and if you dont your gonna die ?? i like me some sun >B-( RANT OVER! sry lol

Cranberry powder!???? that sounds interesting

I wont say no as i am open minded. this is a journy though. maybe your further along then me. any how thanx for the warm welcome

OHHH MAN SHE IS SOOOOO BEAUTIFUL!!! sooo soo nice too, such a nice colour too! must be all thew free hemp protein and oils,butters,milks. lol. saw them a few days ago. (dont say, i said that thow lol he probibly dont know me by name thow im sure he sees tomany people to remember em all ) i know i left there booth stuffed like santaclaus lol yah i love the vega i get most of my supps from truprotein but try to keep as much of it in/from canada as i can afford to.

no prob. these cows (thow nto treated the best ) are horomonaly induced to milk. hey you look VERY VERY familiar. you live in toronto. i sware i know you from some where! ever go to a place called velvet underground??

hey, yah iv tryed all of those. there ok. I like hemp more in my smoothy's kinda more earthy"wich i like" pea/rice is a bit more pudding like not my fav, but just need extra water in there. also the whey i get the cows are giving milk "from horomonaly induced" way not raped on a rack. not natral i know. but i did look into it as much i could from my source. i feel all animals should be walking around free and not locked up in a tiny cell with sucktion cups on there tits day in and day out for milk. or animals rased in there own filth but the thousands just to be killed and eatin (an ideal world for me) but its not. i try to voice my 0.2 to asmany as a can about the evils of eating meat and secialy from places like mcdonalds. I alternate my powders but.... yahh im not perfect neather . im sure the more i learn and grow the better. thanx for all the input to think for yrs i only smoked the "hemp " and ate meat, now i eat the hemp and hate the meat.lol aghhhh i get to pissed at meat eating people and the fact it seems liek 99.9% eat it im the one that looks like the weirdo!!?!?!? feels liek the world is the one whose crazy not me!! "ok just a bit"

yaHHh right cool!!!!!. one of my best friend is good friends with owner and his sister of manatobia harvest "where your hemp comes from, no?" they hook me up with some BIG buckets of protein and the TASTEY hempbutter for cheap."cheaper anyway lol" you know him? my GF loves vega also and always uses it!!! i use it some times in smoothys but i cant afford to take in my 200-250g protein from just vega. but i LOVE it

franco columbu because hes short like me, well im 5' 7" he is 5'4" wich will be very soon then ill add 20-30lbs to that and chisel it over the years

HEY I USE THEM ALSO!!!! i didnt like the gemma all that much BUT it was doable with extra water added as it got thicker them most other powders. rice i forgot if i like or not i got a free sample i didnt remember hateing it. been using them for 3 yrs now. order like 25-50lb at a time (i wont tell you of what or you guys may hang me lol) but i think there a decent company. used the hemp it was ok i prafer it when i make smoothys out of frozen berrys, a banana, soem penutbutter, and fill up with rice milk blend its very nice the hemp.the gemma also but dont use too much or it will be more like puddinglol

OHH GOD more plz? very good hun. ill stop myself cuzz im some what of a perv "i LOVE the female body!!!"

I wouldent call him a basterd but i WOULD say he is VERY skinny! i dont want to flame or make fun-of so ill stop my post about that there.

(has to be broken down and converted to human protein anyway and I think some people forget this) ?????? there is no human or animal protein. there merly combanations of amino acids that are digested "broken down like ANYTHING you eat" some have more amino acides then other some are a "compleat protein" meaning its got all of them "in a verying amount sure" but its there, while others are incompleate "not all there" i dont think you have the right grasp on this but if i can think of a link or smthing to further explain what im trying ot say ill coem back on this thread and post it.

HEY!! thnx for the warm welcome!! . just got back from "The Green Living Show" in toronto it was pretty good. some bull laying around but i found it worth my time. went sat and sunday lol they let me in free today though well i look foward to readign up on some tried and GOOD tasting recep's for food. (i DO eat whey protein powder, chees , don't really like to drink milk I use soy or rice AND DONOT EAT EGGS) forgot to mention that in my first post. I know alot here prob are agenst it (being vegan no doubt) but hey i wont be rubbing it in people face just thought id mention it. I do care for life and think eating meat wrong but sady if it wasnt for cheese and milke thos poor cow's would be eatn also or treated even worse then some are now. >:'-( any how, any one els go to the green living show??

How are you all doing? Well some stats/history about me I guess: Im 26, 5' 7”, 185lbs lean about (12-13%BF) I don’t eat meat, haven’t eaten meat for about 10 yrs and not eaten fish for about 15yrs. I started getting into bodybuilding after I was in car accident about 4 yrs ago. When I really got more heath aware with my food proportions and vitamin intake. Also I was a bit fat/skinny at a whopping 145lbs (prob like 20-25%BF) and looked like crap. Been researching all and everything about health and BBing. When I was in car accident (rear ended on hiway and car totaled) I was in chiropractor’s office and doc 3-4times a week for 2 yrs. STEROID USE INFO SO I DONT GET FLAMED: had full blood work done as doc gave me deca to help with healing and back pain(he’s not stuck up like most western society "usa/canada" with the steroids will kill you ect., and bulls*it the media throws around with out poof to back up words).anyhow lets not get into that lol He wanted to do full check up on me and my blood before any kind of physio or treatment. I was found to have pretty low testosterone levels (went to another doc for blood work and it cam back the same) but other then that I was healthy. so I was put on low dose test "HRT" and deca.(deca on and off every10-12wks but now the drug comp pulled out of Canada because gove was forcing them to up prices/cost so sick couldn’t afford and most didn’t buy so they left and I get it on my own now) Helped back GREATLY. Stopped my anxiety attacks, and depression "read into this and seems low test can cause this I did not know this before" So now I do cycle on my own doubling the test dose for 10wks on and off and get blood work done. So here I am some one referred me here after I was getting flamed at for stating eating meat is screwed up if you don’t need to and in this day and age YOU DONT! Many where biching at me calling me a pussy. and so on. these guys all eat meat and use AAS but yet me only bbing for bout4yrs am bigger/look better then most of them!?!????. sorry for that rant lol. It’s nice to be some where with a common belief that unneeded killing is wrong!! also I know my screen name is kind of odd for a vegetarian, its because im portuges its like a slang term, kind of like whopp for Italian and its my name on allot of sites so I just kept it. Any how I hope I can learn more from this site and not get bashed for caring about life.