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I think I'd be fine - Richard... I just get tired of having soy isolate (bleck) shakes so often. (puretrim is tasty but five bucks vs. 50 cents...when I have a mortage...can't do that...) Does soy have health risks if consumed in too large a quantity? I add cinnamon and make it like 'pudding'...I can deal with it but some days it's like...GAAAAAG me.....no more protein powder...

I didn't say that!!!

Thanks, yes it's a pain in the butt. But there are a lot of worse things that could happen to me. I'm alive, right? Thanks for your support. You show a real passion for your convictions and your (and others') posts really open my eyes to what I never really thought about what happens in certain industries. I wasn't totally oblivious (I've read Diet for a new America, Fast Food Nation and am pretty conscious of my consumer habits) but really never thought about some things... Cheers

Where do you get 10.9%? I see 48 cals out of 52 cals from protein for egg whites...that's over 90% from cals from protein Whereas the tofu has 36 out of 96 cals from protein, meaning less than half?

By nasty, I mean many foods upset my whole digestive system. It becomes a challenge to eat. Right now I'm back into the "I'd rather be hungry than deal with the results of what happens when I eat." (booo) I've looked into things for many years and it's a whole other story. My GP hasn't been all that helpful. Soon I'm seeing a very good doctor who I have been referred to who I'm really confident will figure me out. She is renowned for it and has helped a lot of people get their lives back so to speak. I've learned through a lot of experimenting that I should avoid wheat, oats, gluten, and pretty much all grains. I don't know why but they kill me. Dairy is out (a non issue here!) as well. Well, here is what I can eat without getting basically incapacitated by cramps, gas, bloating and a lot of digestive, er "issues": eggs, fish, chicken (clearly unvegan) -some fruit (not mangoes, not pineapple - darn, they're so good) -cooked vegetables (broccoli, spinach, cauliflower, etc. and I LOVE veggies) - squash and sweet potatoes -Soy protein powder isolate -Tofu - however I hear too much soy has its own health pitfalls - tempeh / LOVE IT - hemp protein (but it's so grainy....can you help?) - Beans and lentils in moderation - -healthy fats like nuts and good oils - Normal things like spices, seasonings, miso, vinegar, mustard etc... I'm a great cook and am willing to spend time preparing things. Please do inform me about how the debate started. Why do bodybuilders/physique athletes place so much emphasis on high protein if it really doesn't matter? I agree first and foremost is to eat ENOUGH calories, but doesn't the relative ratio of the macronutrients also play a key role in body composition/muscle recovery? I am interested in being unbrainwashed about the protein. I do think it's important to get some at each meal, I find if you eat all carbs and nothing else that you get hungry waaaay faster... no? Doesn't protein slow the digestion of the carbs?

CG - have you tried So Nice or Edensoy? Those aren't too bad..... but crappy news indeed.

Well, I can use some suggestions.... I will admit to being a little selfish here....I have a nasty digestive system. Egg whites don't upset it and are a great protein source. I like the fact they're low fat, too... What is a tasty, convenient low fat source of cheap vegan protein? Anyone!!? Thanks flanders, I appreciate it.

SO materialistic...you own a razor? That's it. You crossed the line. And with quads like yours, you should not wear pants -- even in public!

All Zen, I have seen you on the O2 board...your avatar is black and white and red, right? It's some sort of foreign character. Yes, I am on that board...you are not imagining things. I love vegetarian food and have never been completely vegetarian but things are moving that way more and more ... I don't eat meat actually but I do eat fish. Vegan would be a real challenge because egg whites are one of the few things that don't make me ill that ARE protein rich and are NOT meat... My stomach is crazy... I do buy organic free range eggs from a non factory farm...

72 pushups. ROCK ON

I was thinking about you for the entire afternoon and evening last night, and although I'm not a religious person generally - I'll say a prayer for you and your loved ones at this difficult time.

it's six dollars a box here!

Hey, i just read a post where you wanted to eat FOUR thousand cals a day. What's going on?

unprocessed foods high in carbs - all fruit, chickpeas, lentils, beans (kidney, etc.), kamut, spelt, quinoa, rice (all kinds), millet, oats, any grain...sweet potatoes, winter squash...basically anything that came out of the ground or off a tree! (excluding green veggies, these are calorically not dense at all!) How do you eat so much and not put it on as fat? Someone your size can't really burn 4000 cals/daily??! Or can he? Are you doing marathons, dude?

Thanks, michael. You are a true wealth of information. Is it true that (I've read this...) aspartame is chemically changed to formaldehyde at temps above 85 F.? Truly scary.

I'm really sorry. I wish i knew what to say. This is very very sad.

Hey, an update...I sprouted my own soy beans and then cooked them, mashed them and mixed them with miso, tahini and sunflower seeds, and garlic...and baked them as burgers. DELICIOUS.

So is stevia a good thing to use for a sweetener? I use liquid drops to add to things sometimes.

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ Search this database for every food you can think of...

Sugar alcohols are nasty in terms of digestion. I can't handle them at ALL. They have an er, LAXATIVE EFFECT....noted on many packages...

I'd have a post workout meal right away with protein and carbs, then another small protein/carb meal in 2 hours or so, before bed. Eating late at night if you've worked out or just trained is important. As long as you eat enough throughout the day I think it will be fine to train as you just proposed!

Ha, CG -there were a couple of words I sure got..."bodybuilding" for one That's neat they use the same word!

I am watching it now! Love the Deutsch. You looked good too!

I feel like such a shit disturber. All because I started a thread about a new favourite - look what's blown up against the fan!

That stuff is good. The kashi is super processed and full of sugar (but it tastes good...damn!)