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Great work y'all!!!

Yeah, the US dairy industry is marketing dairy heavily in China. I just finished The End of Food, where this, among lots of other things is discussed.

Try just eating whole foods and see if the results gets better or worse. For me I've been getting stronger in the gym even though I don't supplement (with AAs or Protein). What happens in the gym is a more important factor IMO.

This might be news to most simply because I don't think many on here frequent fashionista.com ! You might be the only vegan buddhist to ever set foot in that place

This guy is INSANE!!!!!!

Dishonesty about food intake comes to mind. You can tell me I'm wrong or trash talk me for "insulting" him, but he's not some anomoly, nobody drinks 2 cups of juice a day for a few years and maintains their weight/size. He's been dishonest about his nutrient intake in the past anyways. He claims to be raw and fruitarian for 13 years, but just a few years ago he was eating cooked food to gain weight (michaelhobson can back me up on this one). Most of the old posts have been erased (odd huh?). Call me rude or whatever, but I'm not a fan of dishonesty. I can back you up too. But since we're on cooked we are biased.

Niiiiice with the special effects! Feels like star trek featuring long-haired creatures from the planet vegan!

Where in the world is Osama bin Laden? Positive message. A feel-good docu.

Gettin' yo' fix? It looks like a scene from trainspotting And also CHERIMOYA!!!!!! I can feel the taste in my mouth

I've been longing for a well read McDougall kind of guy/girl on this forum. I really appreciate you being here. I will get on you though, you can count on it.

Wow that is some fucked up shit! He is linking to weston a price for facts about vegetarianism?! That's like linking to Monsanto for facts on DDT. Most people like that will be out of reach and there are many of them. They will seek out "information" that will support their bad habits. They will still love you if you say that you are not vegan because you eat 1% of your calories from meat, they will hate you if you eat 0%. It has nothing to do with facts it's all dogma and religion. Whenever people are ready they will seek out places like VBB&F or VF. When they come we need to be accurate, believable and trustworthy in our approach.

Yelena Isinbayeva is pretty awesome!

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It's a little strange to me, the theory of calorie abundance for brain development. As I understand jumps in evolution happens when there are famine and the "weak" genes can be weaned out in favor of the "strong" ones. If calorie abundance where the key to evolutionary jumps then we would have taken many such jumps today since there are all kinds of reproduction in all kinds of combinations. I think our brain probably developed during a period of drought and famine since that would be more on par with what we know about evolution. Still even a lot of scientists cling on to the meat/bone marrow in abundance theory.

Now, that is a bold statement!

Here's what I do. I first look at large population studies. In the example above there are billions of people on this planet that eats plant based diets that don't break their bones. Thus the statement made above is pointless since it (according to me) comes from a less valuable source (in vitro, smaller clinical study, etc). As I see it we get the rough estimates from these population studies. Then we go back to the lab to figure out why we got the results we did. I see a problem with not seeing the forest for all the trees here though since while looking for answers we tend to lose sight of what we initially were looking for. Sometimes this leads to contradictory results from what we had in the population studies and that's when nonsense like the above surface. This is an indication that we have climbed the wrong branch and should go back to try another one. This is not always done and this is probably one of the reasons we have so many fad diets and so many people dying from heart disease. The data have not really changed the last 10000 years or so. Whole plants were good then, according to the small data they had, and it is still good today.

If there are opposing views then both should provide evidence. However this is very seldom the case and it is not so in this case either. You claim A. I say: ok, prove it! Then you say: You're always so negative. Why don't you prove I'm wrong?! If you fail then I must be right. See the difference. I never claimed anything. I'm just suggesting that A is wrong, not that (not A) or B is right. The claim I make is that whole plant foods is good for you and there is plenty of evidence to back that up from epidemiological and clinical double-blinded studies. There may well be a next step to my reasoning but the science just isn't there yet. Raw food could be the next natural step but then again, so could anything. More beans, less stress, more stress, war, conflict, love, hate, believing in God, etc. I could start my own niche called the more Gods doctrine, stating that health and happiness is linearly correlated with the number of Gods one believes in. I could make up a whole lot of stuff about cro magnons, early humans and what is natural, sell a few books and get rich. I could say that I feel better every time I add a God to my collection and that may friends who do the same feels the same way. In fact, my niece had cancer and when she added three more Gods to her belief the cancer disappeared. I think you would disagree with me if I stated this, no?

Ooooookey. There's a lot of stuff there that Michael Pollan would call "edible food-like substances" and not a lot of what I (or him) would call food. You need whole foods. A few rules: 1. Eat greens every day. That's a given for anyone, nomatter what the weight. 2. Since you want to gain weight you need to seriously step it up. Eat whole grains, beans, (preferably raw) nuts and seeds, coconut milk. 3. Get Cronometer and put in everything you eat in a day. 4. Aim high, since you want to gain weight. Go for at least 5000kcal/day. It's easy, I could do it every day, without problem. If you gain too fast, cut it down until it's on par with what you want.

Yeah, good luck! Hitting the weights can be like meditation, it often is for me. Something to think about

Good article from William Harris M.D.

The burden of proof should come from whoever claims something. Proving all wrong things to be wrong could take awhile since for every true statement there will (literally) be infinite false ones.

B9 is folate, as far as I know it is mostly (only?) present in plants. All enzymes are broken down by the digestive system into amino acids and peptides (and probably other things that DV and medman will remind me of ). The question to me is not if we are carnivore (we are most certainly not) but if we are omnivore. There are no mammals that are completely vegan as it is an abnormal way of thinking in a natural environment. I believe we are among the animals that are 95-99% herbivore, together with the other primates. I base this on our physiology (some of it you mentioned) and our disease pattern when we eat too much meat.

There are even more similarities between red blood cells and other red blood cells so drinking blood would be better. If one wants to stay vegan you can drink your own blood or a friends if you want the effect. Also, I don't think there's a peculiar problem associated with producing blood for most healthy adults so I don't see what could be 'better' with chlorophyll. Also, a red blood cell is a cell (with metabolism, different parts necessary for life, etc) while chlorophyll is a molecule. Those are not the same entities. I think wheatgrass juice is healthy, it being green and all, but not necessarily because of the 'similarity' with blood.