Fallen_Horse

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Cool article! That video in OP's topic makes me wonder how much weight a natural dude would be able to push around. Do they have any (actually) natural strongman competitions?

Honestly? I think you might need to incorporate SOME non-vegan foods into clients' meals at first. 90% of people (even health nuts) have a hard time imagining themselves on a fully vegan diet. I think your best bet might be to include SMALL amounts of (preferably local, grass-fed, organic) meats in plans that are otherwise entirely vegan. When you have convinced people to cut down their meat consumption drastically, it becomes much easier later on to convince them to go fully vegan. Also you have the convenience of triathlons working well with vegan diets. If you had bodybuilding clients you would have a tougher time getting them vegan. I think the name can be anything based on 'health' or 'organic' or other words that we often associate with the vegan lifestyle, but that don't necessarily scream I'M VEGAN AND YOU SHOULD BE TOO. Picking a name is tough, and I'm sorry I don't have any good ideas!

I just can't take supplement users seriously......... I just can't take protein powder users seriously........ I just can't take ______ users seriously........ Yes, most people don't agree with steroid use, but it has been done in the pros for ages now, and it's not likely to stop. Whether he is 'natural' or not (creatine isn't 'natural' by the way, etc., etc.) doesn't affect his training and diet regimen, which I'm sure is strenuous. He is an example of what the human body can do when you throw modern chemical science, genetics, and training into a person. So don't plan on hitting those lifts at that body weight, but you can still learn about training and technique and also just watch the dude lift really heavy crap.

Why u no like the website? www.fitday.com

Good article! http://boingboing.net/2012/03/09/seduced-by-food-obesity-and-t.html

Lookin' like a badass!

How advanced of a lifter are you? Usually 3 day splits are best for advanced trainees and also for lifters who are CERTAIN to hit the gym on all three days. If you are just starting out, I would definitely go with more of a full-body routine like Stronglifts or MadCow. These let you gain the most muscle mass in the least amount of gym time, and they aren't too complicated to keep track of. Now let's see what everyone else has to say!

Whole, raw fruits and veggies are harder for the body to digest than cooked or juiced fruits and veggies. Vegetable juicing is fine to get some quick nutrients, but I would stick to the whole food when eating fruits. Smoothies are good too. Do you chew your food well? I find that the better I chew, the less gas I have. Also, eating a high protein diet is going to cause some gas, just due to how the body responds to protein digestion. For other foods with good protein, look into lentils, peas, edamame, quinoa, and limited quantities of nuts and seeds. If you aren't losing the weight you want, your best bet is to monitor your caloric intake for a few days (as well as the carb/fat/prot breakdown) and see how your numbers compare to others'.

Agreed, better safe than sorry! Do you have a good stretching routine?

You eat too damn clean, son!

$4.29 to $4.55 here right now. Gotta get a Prius!

Medman is Goneman! :/

That's exactly what I was thinking haha! Maybe I need to start using some personal headphones and some rockin' tunes. Forklift, do you know if Poundstone is natural or not? He go heavy on the supps? Heavy on protein?

That is ESSENTIAL for working through the emotions and stress. I Facebook-stalked my ex for a few weeks after our breakup, and it didn't do me any favors. Close the connection as cleanly as possible, re-inventory who you are as a person, and get yourself back on your feet. Lifting always helps!

I think the best part is how strong you feel in day-to-day life, as compared to before. Comparing myself as a fat, lazy vegetarian to a (less fat) exercising vegan, the strength difference is ridiculous. You are making great progress. Keep eating those plates!

I don't know where you live, but I would be surprised if they made it themselves. I haven't even found 'locally made' tempeh here in LA, although it's not hard to get hold of local tofu....

The problem is refrigeration. You don't have any Asian stores nearby?

Yeah what's the point in not killing people if there is no eternal punishment for it?

Ethryitol has a calorie value of 0.2 calories per gram, which is 1/20th as much as normal sugar (4 calories per gram). So if you ate 100g of ethryitol (blegh!) then you are sitting at 20 calories.

Good article!

These are great responses! I'm glad it has brought up a useful discussion topic. I am continuing the debate, and I will let you guys know how it goes

First, some info from Wiki: "Philosophical theories on the nature and origins of morality (that is, theories of meta-ethics) are broadly divided into two classes: Moral realism is the class of theories which hold that there are true moral statements that report objective moral facts. For example, while they might concede that forces of social conformity significantly shape individuals' "moral" decisions, they deny that those cultural norms and customs define morally right behavior. This may be the philosophical view propounded by ethical naturalists, however not all moral realists accept that position (e.g. ethical non-naturalists).[7] [/b]Moral anti-realism, on the other hand, holds that moral statements either fail or do not even attempt to report objective moral facts. Instead, they hold that moral claims are derived either from an unsupported belief that there are objective moral facts (error theory, a form of moral nihilism); the speakers' sentiments (emotivism, a form of moral relativism); or any one of the norms prevalent in society (ethical subjectivism, another form of moral relativism). Theories which claim that morality is derived from reasoning about implied imperatives (universal prescriptivism), the edicts of a god (divine command theory), or the hypothetical decrees of a perfectly rational being (ideal observer theory), are considered anti-realist in the robust sense used here, but are considered realist in the sense synonymous with moral universalism." I was recently in a debate about veganism with a moral anti-realist, and I realized I didn't have a good reason to give him to persuade him to go vegan. He argued that all a person's morals are simply constructs they create to fit their actions and upbringing, and that nothing has an absolute moral value. Therefore animals have no moral value, and veganism has no moral basis. There is no reason to not eat animals, because animals only have the value you assign to them. When I told him that humans assign value everyday, AKA why there is punishment for murdering a human, he replied that values and laws are assigned only for us to 'cover our own asses', and that there is no more value in a plant than in an animal. I was taken back, because I had never dealt with this philosophical approach before, and I am not sure what to think. Thoughts?

Actually we ended up cheating. Bought a gym membership and now we force ourselves to go after work, Mon, Wed, Fri. It has worked so far, with good days and bad days. Thanks for the idea though

They seem to have a pretty low glycemic load... http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/breakfast-cereals/1598/2